Give Yourself a Uppercut

[muzenza365]

I am talking through my pocket here, but I do feel justified.

I had a large place bet on a horse named Ceolwulf, and of course, it ran 4th.

I will challenge anyone who watched the race and tells me it was not a shocker of a ride by Chad Schofield.

He is following Via Sistina and Arapaho, who were traveling well, then Chad, instead of following the favourite decided to make his move if 3 wide, then 4 wide, then 13 wide, and finishes 2.5 lengths from Via Sistina which he should have just followed instead of having a brain explosion.

There was no basis on or off the fence as in the previous race. The Autumn Glow came from well back and one width off the fence.

So after this bulls**t i did something I never do and put $100 on the Warriors to win at $1 .70 and got a result and after golf, a mate or he was a mate, told me the Roosters cannot lose at $1.35, but i noticed they were paying a $1.50 for Halt Time and Full time so on goes $170 at $1.50 and they won neither half.

Does anyone know what price Mitre Ten or Bunnings charges for 1m of rope? I will take the cheapest option thanks

Chief, can you tell me if you have any Aussie viewers that post, as I would like to know what the Aussie people, like Ron Dufficy etc, were saying?

 

 

[muzenza365]

Sorry, Chief, could you put the race up? I can go through the pain again, i think

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, muzenza365 said:

Sorry, Chief, could you put the race up? I can go through the pain again, i think

Sure but in my opinion he was never going to beat the first two.

[Chief Stipe]

 

[curious]

oops that was a snap.

 

Edited 14 hours ago by curious

[Gammalite]

3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Sure but in my opinion he was never going to beat the first two.

the 3rd horse is the Sydney Cup winner too. Arapaho has 2 first up wins too over this shorter distance and is an Excellent Wet track horse as well. 

Wallers 2 quinella Mares in that are 'Next Level' good.  almost Best in Australia. or actually are.

So Ceolwulf was Only the 4th best horse in that race.  and ran 4th.  And also Never won first up in 4 Attempts previously.  so would of been a Poor bet in that class WINX G1. field. 

But you could of had a shot at the first 4( in order almost)  of $728 excellent FIRST FOUR divvie though. 🏇💰

[Chief Stipe]

4 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

Wallers 2 quinella Mares in that are 'Next Level' good.  almost Best in Australia. or actually are.

Autumn Glow another Waller trained mare is at the level too.

Plus Treasure The Moment with Matt Laurie could be better than all of them.

[muzenza365]

1 hour ago, Gammalite said:

the 3rd horse is the Sydney Cup winner too. Arapaho has 2 first up wins too over this shorter distance and is an Excellent Wet track horse as well. 

Wallers 2 quinella Mares in that are 'Next Level' good.  almost Best in Australia. or actually are.

So Ceolwulf was Only the 4th best horse in that race.  and ran 4th.  And also Never won first up in 4 Attempts previously.  so would of been a Poor bet in that class WINX G1. field. 

But you could of had a shot at the first 4( in order almost)  of $728 excellent FIRST FOUR divvie though. 🏇💰

Gamma, with respect to you, may i suggest you stick with Harness tipping?

I was bagging the ride, not the first up statistics.In my opinion, it was a shocking ride and I only backed it to place, and I have no doubt that with half a run it would have placed, which i wanted.

I have no problem with getting beaten, but i do hate a poor ride and this was a poor ride in a G1 was not worthy of a riding fee, other than he didn't fall off. 

[muzenza365]

I went looking at what Ron Dufficy had to say about the ride, if anything.

I found this on Racenet,

It was a bit of a horror show for Ceolwolf from the start. He was a little bit slow away and settled much further back than expected, and then shoved right out wide in a place NOT to be on the turn. His effort was ENORMOUS considering the circumstances.

On that, i will rest my case. Thank you, Linesmen and Ball Boys.

 

[Bill]

2 hours ago, muzenza365 said:

I went looking at what Ron Dufficy had to say about the ride, if anything.

I found this on Racenet,

It was a bit of a horror show for Ceolwolf from the start. He was a little bit slow away and settled much further back than expected, and then shoved right out wide in a place NOT to be on the turn. His effort was ENORMOUS considering the circumstances.

On that, i will rest my case. Thank you, Linesmen and Ball Boys.

 

Go read social media. Trainer defending jockey. Keyboard warriors again

 

[muzenza365]

Bill read what you reported. He said he made a mistake, and I will give him credit for that.

At the end of the day, a better plan B  after missing the start would have been to follow the favourite and a 10-time G1 winner, and would have been the right call; that is what I would expect if I were either the Owner or the Trainer

[Chief Stipe]

7 minutes ago, muzenza365 said:

At the end of the day, a better plan B  after missing the start would have been to follow the favourite and a 10-time G1 winner,

Uh?  Did you watch the replay?  When was he ever going to be able to get onto the back of Via Sistena?

[muzenza365]

Chief ,Prior to straightening up James comes off the fence, and Jason goes up on James inside,have another look, if Chad had waited on James to make his move and get a drag up, he didn',t and he has admitted his mistake,so happy to leave there.

On this note, I slaughtered Grey Way one day. I put my hand up and told Pat Corboy i was to blame,and his response was i will call you don't call me,I did win one on him prior.

[Gammalite]

3 hours ago, muzenza365 said:

Gamma, with respect to you, may i suggest you stick with Harness tipping?

I was bagging the ride, not the first up statistics.In my opinion, it was a shocking ride and I only backed it to place, and I have no doubt that with half a run it would have placed, which i wanted.

I have no problem with getting beaten, but i do hate a poor ride and this was a poor ride in a G1 was not worthy of a riding fee, other than he didn't fall off. 

hahaha . I've been around a while mate. My tipping is doing ok . One bet last weekend Jimmy Recard. and 3 bets this weekend were all on Mark Purdon with lots of Multis at AKLD Friday night. He won all 3 races he contested. so you could be right. and should stick to harness. I took a few Akuta multi's into Via Sistina Saturday and others as ONLY ever bet on the very  BEST mate.   (horse or trainer or driver in what ever race I might be looking at)  so have exceptional success rate . But thanks for the respect.

Yeah plenty of people 'Bag rides' every race like you have here. There can Be only ONE WINNER. (barring DH) 

You can grizzle , as well as the jockey and everyone else, Didn't worry me . was probably 4th best horse in race and ran 4th. So seemed normal lol.  Via Sistina is the AUSTRALIAN RACEhorse of the SEASON.

so very 'hard to beat' in other words. hahaha😋

A gazillion races at Randwick see horses sit back to the home straight corner and use the arc geometry of the corner like Ceolwulf did to switch outside the other runners , and come on down the outside of field. Happens all the bloody time . Must of seen it a thousand times. Mo'unga even did that at Addington the other night 🤣 . A common tactic. 

You call it a foul/poor ride so good for you . Won't be the last horse ever, to switch wide turning for home and run 4th. Next race please ? hahaha 

 

[muzenza365]

Yes agree Gamma, i have no issue with losing a bet, but in my opinion, not only was it a bad ride but also i believe it got a gut-buster race, and when it is the start of the Spring or G1 racing it is important to remember there will be other opportunities in the near future so i would have been happy to ride for luck and see what unfolded and have a horse next time.

[Chief Stipe]

6 minutes ago, muzenza365 said:

Chief ,Prior to straightening up James comes off the fence, and Jason goes up on James inside,have another look, if Chad had waited on James to make his move and get a drag up, he didn',t and he has admitted his mistake,so happy to leave there.

On this note, I slaughtered Grey Way one day. I put my hand up and told Pat Corboy i was to blame,and his response was i will call you don't call me,I did win one on him prior.

Fair enough but he had two horses inside him when VS starting improving he then made the move forward on the outside.  Aeliana got on the back of VS first so Ceowulf would have been another horse back assuming he could pull back and around the $101 shot Diamond Diesel.

Stewards Vision:

https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/VideoResult.aspx?MeetDate=2025Aug23&VenueCode=MjAyNjM1MA==&RaceNumber=8&MeetingCategory=Professional&VideoFileType=Stewards

With the benefit of hindsight he should have ridden really cold and moved over to sit behind the two waller hotpots at the back of the field.  

So Grey Way could have won 52 times?  Or did you getting the flick become the turning point in his career?  ☺️

[muzenza365]

At least you do have a sense of humor, Chief.

• I am not sure what win it was, but it would have been around his 30th win. Also, I got asked to ride Little Brown Jug, but I had to ride a stablemate as well. Yes, the stablemate won and LBG got beaten. Funnily enough, I never got back on him either.
• Trainers must have been harder to please back in the day, or Joe Pride is a forgiving human being.😀

[Chief Stipe]

7 minutes ago, muzenza365 said:

Trainers must have been harder to please back in the day, or Joe Pride is a forgiving human being.😀

Well it isn't easy in those big Group races on the OZ metro tracks.  A bit tougher than trying to get one up on Leo Molloy at Washdyke.  I saw the Jockey interviews for a race (not sure which one it was) but J Mac had had a really shyte ride and only gave a three word reply.  

[muzenza365]

Not sure about that, Chief. Riders that started in the South and have done well include but are not limited to, Skelton's rode plenty of Group winners E J Didham, D Browne, Buffering, and lately D Stackhouse and J Kennedy  and L Bates are doing  very well over the ditch

 

[Chief Stipe]

26 minutes ago, muzenza365 said:

Not sure about that, Chief. Riders that started in the South and have done well include but are not limited to, Skelton's rode plenty of Group winners E J Didham, D Browne, Buffering, and lately D Stackhouse and J Kennedy  and L Bates are doing  very well over the ditch

 

But still harder against 15 world class Jockeys in a race at Randwick. 

[Gammalite]

1 hour ago, muzenza365 said:

also i believe it got a gut-buster race, and when it is the start of the Spring or G1 racing it is important to remember there will be other opportunities in the near future so i would have been happy to ride for luck and see what unfolded and have a horse next time.

He's a quality horse though. and has won twice 2nd up so might rev up ok for you next start, all going well.

I think anyone chasing Via Sistina bound to get a gut -buster ( at least the last 200m these days lol 😉.)

But does One race Run at 1400m first up  and just powering up the last 400m or so home straight flatten them ?  Ceolwulf should be ok ? . he's up to 19 race starts now , so gotta a little bit of experience now .  (a few preps) 

Does get out to 2000m and race competitively  , so is a fairly tough bugger anyway. very nice horse. 

 

Excellent stuff with a Grey Way win BTW . good on you👍🏆. The very first horse I ever heard of as a kid in NZ. My dad being one of the 'small Transistor radio' Sat brigade and taking a TAB treble every Saturday , and tuning in . so he would get a leg with Grey Way every now and then and always say was the Best horse going. La Mer and Uncle Remus were the 2 other ones that seemed to be tops at the time , that I remember. The North  had Delightful Lady at the trots . Holding out all the Southern Raiders every 2nd week or so it seemed. Think she won about 40 or so at Alexandra Park. 

[Chief Stipe]

17 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

He's a quality horse though. and has won twice 2nd up so might rev up ok for you next start, all going well.

I think anyone chasing Via Sistina bound to get a gut -buster ( at least the last 200m these days lol 😉.)

Doubt it would have bottomed him.  He had two lead up trials before Saturday and in OZ their trials are usually quite strong.

[Shad]

34 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

He's a quality horse though. and has won twice 2nd up so might rev up ok for you next start, all going well.

I think anyone chasing Via Sistina bound to get a gut -buster ( at least the last 200m these days lol 😉.)

But does One race Run at 1400m first up  and just powering up the last 400m or so home straight flatten them ?  Ceolwulf should be ok ? . he's up to 19 race starts now , so gotta a little bit of experience now .  (a few preps) 

Does get out to 2000m and race competitively  , so is a fairly tough bugger anyway. very nice horse. 

 

Excellent stuff with a Grey Way win BTW . good on you👍🏆. The very first horse I ever heard of as a kid in NZ. My dad being one of the 'small Transistor radio' Sat brigade and taking a TAB treble every Saturday , and tuning in . so he would get a leg with Grey Way every now and then and always say was the Best horse going. La Mer and Uncle Remus were the 2 other ones that seemed to be tops at the time , that I remember. The North  had Delightful Lady at the trots . Holding out all the Southern Raiders every 2nd week or so it seemed. Think she won about 40 or so at Alexandra Park. 

No response sticks in my head, had a devastating sprint, can recall him weaving his way through the field, may have been Auckland. 

 

[Gammalite]

47 minutes ago, Shad said:

No response sticks in my head, had a devastating sprint, can recall him weaving his way through the field, may have been Auckland. 

 

yes, he won a Rowe Cup at Auckland off 10m 1981 . was there that night to see the great horse go . we had one in it and it ran last lol. It was retirement race for No Response, and he went out with a Bang for your buck😁💰  . The Rowe Cup being NZ's feature trot. 

No Response won just about every Big trot going and incredibly didn't race till he was a 6 year old.  winning 12 of his 16 starts including the Interdominion Grand Final,  in just his second year of racing , as a spritely 7 year old. 

You're thinking of the Interdominion Grand Final at Addington 1979,  where he roared home from the back of the field to beat the 2 Australian trotters,  and claim a fabulous win for New Zealand.  weaving his way through field, as you said. a fabulous trotter.  

Richard Brosnan moved to Aus 2018 , so to train with his son Emmett in Victoria,  and they won the trot Interdominon Trot Final once again,  training the winner Maori Law just 3 years ago ,along with Emmett . 42 years after his first one with No Response.  Maori Law driven to victory by the Late great Greg Sugars at Menangle .   

Edited 2 hours ago by Gammalite

[Doomed]

48 minutes ago, Shad said:

No response sticks in my head, had a devastating sprint, can recall him weaving his way through the field, may have been Auckland. 

 

Interdominion grand final at Addington