Boys Get Paid (BGP) Wings Clipped?

[Chief Stipe]

The word is that the BGP may have run its course.  The managers have run out of puff and Ellerslie wants their hospitality rooms back for other promotions.

The next Karaka Millions night will be the last with special privileges and they won't be there Champions Day.

[Tragedy Beat]

Good!

[Chief Stipe]

40 minutes ago, Tragedy Beat said:

Good!

Just out of interest.  Why do you think it is "Good"?

[Huey]

Who used who the most? 

Ellerslie or BGP crowd?

[Chief Stipe]

39 minutes ago, Huey said:

Who used who the most? 

Ellerslie or BGP crowd?

The TAB didn't mind.  Weren't they always in front on the ledger?

[Huey]

5 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

The TAB didn't mind.  Weren't they always in front on the ledger?

Yes they certainly did well out of them, its odd they haven't attempted to assist with keeping it all going?

[Newmarket]

TAB tightening up on all promos etc…. no surprises here. Was always offering over inflated odds and money back….

[Chief Stipe]

2 hours ago, Huey said:

Yes they certainly did well out of them, its odd they haven't attempted to assist with keeping it all going?

Like most things nowadays no stamina.

Let's face it @Huey you're still hanging in there on your Lazy Boy.

[Huey]

5 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Like most things nowadays no stamina.

Let's face it @Huey you're still hanging in there on your Lazy Boy.

Yes but not wagering anything close to what this crowd was.

Still interesting to know what happened.

[Special Agent]

We are only seeing one side of it.  Maybe the Boys Get Paid were being demanding.  It seems strange to drop large turnovers like a hot potato.

Love or hate whatever promos and groups that come into this sphere, we have been made well aware that we have to have very active punting to keep us all in a job, whether it's from a Lazy Boy, a Pub TAB or under the loud speaker at a racecourse.

Every day I'm told by someone that racing is nearly finished.  So many bad past decisions, so many looking to line their own pockets etc.

You'd wonder how such an important and vibrant industry has come to this.

[Chief Stipe]

41 minutes ago, Special Agent said:

Every day I'm told by someone that racing is nearly finished.  So many bad past decisions, so many looking to line their own pockets etc.

You'd wonder how such an important and vibrant industry has come to this.

What are you doing about it?

[curious]

5 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

What are you doing about it?

That's a fair question but I'd say not too many are doing more than @Special Agent

[Chief Stipe]

56 minutes ago, curious said:

That's a fair question but I'd say not too many are doing more than @Special Agent

I didn't ask you.

[hesi]

7 hours ago, Special Agent said:

We are only seeing one side of it.  Maybe the Boys Get Paid were being demanding.  It seems strange to drop large turnovers like a hot potato.

Love or hate whatever promos and groups that come into this sphere, we have been made well aware that we have to have very active punting to keep us all in a job, whether it's from a Lazy Boy, a Pub TAB or under the loud speaker at a racecourse.

Every day I'm told by someone that racing is nearly finished.  So many bad past decisions, so many looking to line their own pockets etc.

You'd wonder how such an important and vibrant industry has come to this.

Interesting comment, and until Entain came along and threw the industry a 5 year lifeline, I would have agreed with you.  A 70 mil payout in 22/23 to thoroughbred would have dropped to about 50 mil in 23/24 instead if going up over 90 mil, such was the state of progress data.

I don't agree with the way a lot of that money is being used and don't understand this fascination with top end stakes.

But you have to look back to the 90's, to find out why this all started going downhill.

Pre that time, Racing had it mainly to themselves as far as entertainment and expendable dollar.  In came casinos, Lotto and sports, all offering other forms of entertainment and gambling.

Racing didn't compete to retain market share, because it couldn't because it is not set up to and slowly but surely we saw a decline.

 

[Huey]

On 23/09/2025 at 7:14 PM, hesi said:

Interesting comment, and until Entain came along and threw the industry a 5 year lifeline, I would have agreed with you.  A 70 mil payout in 22/23 to thoroughbred would have dropped to about 50 mil in 23/24 instead if going up over 90 mil, such was the state of progress data.

I don't agree with the way a lot of that money is being used and don't understand this fascination with top end stakes.

But you have to look back to the 90's, to find out why this all started going downhill.

Pre that time, Racing had it mainly to themselves as far as entertainment and expendable dollar.  In came casinos, Lotto and sports, all offering other forms of entertainment and gambling.

Racing didn't compete to retain market share, because it couldn't because it is not set up to and slowly but surely we saw a decline.

 

It was infiltrated by a bunch of no hopers who haven't a shroud of real interest in the sport, that was the first problem, then it let them make decisions and finally let them proliferate with the old deadwood of the sport and it's been a sticky slope ever since. 

[TAB For Ever]

A lot of old favourites have gone into decline.

Workingmens Clubs ...only 3 x left in South Island now ,and bowls clubs started folding too before they saw they needed things to change !

Horse racing is so bloody boring , always was but little else to follow and it was all you old dogs could bet on ,a half decent double could get you a deposit on a house !

Rare today ,and the young ones much prefer to dabble on Sports.

And participants love to blame the admin folk but it wasn't them who behaved badly and got the industry such a bad rating among the general public !