Dark Beau Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 44 minutes ago, Sandpiper said: If they don't have any footage of the jiggers in use the whole thing could end being a bit of a .. bust I heard tonight that they do have video footage from a disgruntled employee. (Probably ex-employee) It came from a very good source but it could still be false, as one doesn’t know how much any story changes as it get passed on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, The Centaur said: C'mon RM they have been investigating this thing whatever for months but can't land any charges. Seems its all a plan b scenario to justify the investigation. Tell me in plain language what Weir has done wrong. Having 3 jiggers on the place could have come from anywhere. I presume you've seen D. Weirs fingerprints on the device. 1 hour ago, Sandpiper said: If they don't have any footage of the jiggers in use the whole thing could end being a bit of a .. bust Secret surveillance footage taken at Melbourne-Cup winning horse trainer Darren Weir's Warrnambool and Ballarat properties is at the centre of the investigation into the alleged use of illegal shock devices on valuable thoroughbreds. Weir, who was released without charge after being arrested on Wednesday, was questioned as part of a police probe into betting and animal cruelty that potentially saw electric shock "jiggers" being used to improve the performance of horses. It is understood still pictures were shown to Weir when he was interviewed on Wednesday by detectives from the Victoria Police's sporting integrity unit. While he initially co-operated, he refused to answer questions relating to the images. Meanwhile, Chief Commissioner(Police) Graham Ashton has weighed in on the investigation. Mr Ashton, who owns racehorses himself, said it was too early to say if criminal charges would be laid or whether the case would be referred to the racing regulatory environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooncoin Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Weir is innocent until proven guilty.The items found on his premises were released for the media to chow down on!!The Federal police are leading the investigation (not just for the the last couple of months)which could mean there is something deeper here.Only time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 9 hours ago, Brando said: While he initially co-operated, he refused to answer questions relating to the images. very silly to answer any questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowley Mile Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 10 hours ago, Mooncoin said: Weir is innocent until proven guilty.The items found on his premises were released for the media to chow down on!!The Federal police are leading the investigation (not just for the the last couple of months)which could mean there is something deeper here.Only time will tell. Wrong, The Feds are not leading at all.......get onto the best Aussie feed streams for the latest, but check your facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooncoin Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Rowley Mile said: Wrong, The Feds are not leading at all.......get onto the best Aussie feed streams for the latest, but check your facts. Rowley, I respect your views on a number of threads,but surely you don't believe all you read?(Aussie feed streams?)My sources are well respected so that's all I can go by!RV and the RVI are the puppets in this show,they can hardly nail a picture to the wall let alone lead a case like this.Who is the puppeteer? Everyone has their own opinion and I respect yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowley Mile Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Thanks Mooncoin, and I yours.......I'm a little bit closer than you, having trained at Flemington for 5 years when Weir was in short pants....I have some good contacts still in VIC......social media here has some very good 'detectives' of course you need to read between the lines, but V'Landys at Racing NSW is a gun, no bullshit, straight shooter, and he has banned Birchley, Currie and now issued Weir with a show cause, you see it's about integrity and perception, the Sheriffs have to not only be seen doing something to protect racing's public image, they have to do something......they did, and I agree....after the Cobalt fiasco here...oh and there in NZ.....with your tainted troughs crap.....everyone at Racing NSW is pro-active.....the fiasco in Melbourne with the Cobalt boys proved integrity and accountability is integral to public perception and acceptance, so, let's see what the Lawyers do next as Victoria is a vastly different animal to NSW!. BTW.......the jiggers have been reported to have been locked up in a safe on the property.......now that's damning, hard to deny if they are in your safe I'm thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooncoin Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, Rowley Mile said: Thanks Mooncoin, and I yours.......I'm a little bit closer than you, having trained at Flemington for 5 years when Weir was in short pants....I have some good contacts still in VIC......social media here has some very good 'detectives' of course you need to read between the lines, but V'Landys at Racing NSW is a gun, no bullshit, straight shooter, and he has banned Birchley, Currie and now issued Weir with a show cause, you see it's about integrity and perception, the Sheriffs have to not only be seen doing something to protect racing's public image, they have to do something......they did, and I agree....after the Cobalt fiasco here...oh and there in NZ.....with your tainted troughs crap.....everyone at Racing NSW is pro-active.....the fiasco in Melbourne with the Cobalt boys proved integrity and accountability is integral to public perception and acceptance, so, let's see what the Lawyers do next as Victoria is a vastly different animal to NSW!. BTW.......the jiggers have been reported to have been locked up in a safe on the property.......now that's damning, hard to deny if they are in your safe I'm thinking. Agree whole heartly Rowley.We may have a two prong attack here as you are in the industry and my sources are behind the scenes ?. Weirs story is going to be interesting. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowley Mile Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 six charges against Mr Weir, lets now see if he can train on a stay........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowley Mile Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Hit with a show cause notice as well.....the steps will decide shortly if Weir is free to train on until the case is heard...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimbu Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Rowley Mile said: six charges against Mr Weir, lets now see if he can train on a stay........ Is there a site where I can read to read the details now? Edited February 1, 2019 by Chimbu grammar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowley Mile Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 yep, racing.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowley Mile Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rowley Mile said: yep, racing.com racingvictoria.com.au 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowley Mile Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 two seperate sites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 three charges are for the same thing. i.e. having a jigger. No mention of the intent for having the jiggers therefore most probably no evidence of having used them. THe other charges supposedly for not fully cooperating in the inquiry. Most probably as a result of legal advice. Storm in a teacup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowley Mile Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, The Centaur said: three charges are for the same thing. i.e. having a jigger. No mention of the intent for having the jiggers therefore most probably no evidence of having used them. THe other charges supposedly for not fully cooperating in the inquiry. Most probably as a result of legal advice. Storm in a teacup. Conduct prejudicial......one of the worst charges a trainer can face.......are you related to him Centaur? a love child perhaps? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshu Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 You should all read the village racing forum,talk about having the guy in jail for the rest of his life before any fronting of the stewards yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rowley Mile said: Conduct prejudicial......one of the worst charges a trainer can face.......are you related to him Centaur? a love child perhaps? Well I'm not a trainer from Victoria e.g. Dabernig just waiting to get hold of the horses calling for Weir to be hung without a trial and the others just waiting like gouls. https://www.racing.com/news/2019-02-01/news-dabernig-comments-on-weir-investigation (Or a past trainer for that matter.) Must be something in the water that affects both past and present Victoria trainers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltedMilkshake Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 BREAKING: All Weir horses entered for Moonee Valley tonight have been scratched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, MaltedMilkshake said: BREAKING: All Weir horses entered for Moonee Valley tonight have been scratched. That will make a few owners pissed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltedMilkshake Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Newmarket said: That will make a few owners pissed Yeah plus all runners tomorrow....it’s gunna get interesting. So what will all those Syndicators do now...? In the court of public opinion, they are copping a flogging on social media... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, The Centaur said: Well I'm not a trainer from Victoria e.g. Dabernig just waiting to get hold of the horses calling for Weir to be hung without a trial and the others just waiting like gouls. https://www.racing.com/news/2019-02-01/news-dabernig-comments-on-weir-investigation (Or a past trainer for that matter.) Must be something in the water that affects both past and present Victoria trainers. I can assure you that Hayes, Hayes, Dabernig are not desperate "to be waiting to get a hold" of Weir's horses! Edited February 1, 2019 by Brando Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowley Mile Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 On Gumtree over here...For Sale 600 horses, mixed kilometres, large selection of batteries, bring cash''! No tyre kickers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowley Mile Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Has anyone seen Dr James Herriott from channel 2? has he put his head up yet? Thought he might have spotted something when he was ''invited' to the 'Great Ones' yard? eagle eye and all that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowley Mile Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Hearing adjourned until 2pm Monday. Moonee Valley on shortly so no wonder. Well at least he has the weekend to get the story right me thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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