$45000 for 4 2yo Trotters

[mikeynz]

Now I know the stake will be adjusted a bit but how naive is this just seems another bungle by HRNZ, race 1 Addington, by all means run a 2yo trot, but when everything else is 17000 that's weird, no doubt the 4  guys turning will be rubbing their hands with glee, nice work if you can get it.

[Gammalite]

13 minutes ago, mikeynz said:

Now I know the stake will be adjusted a bit but how naive is this just seems another bungle by HRNZ, race 1 Addington, by all means run a 2yo trot, but when everything else is 17000 that's weird, no doubt the 4  guys turning will be rubbing their hands with glee, nice work if you can get it.

It's common for the 2 year old trotters Mikey. to run for good prizemoney these days.

In your 4 horse field Race 1 this Friday is a good filly of Nathan Williamsons. Duchess Maria.

All 4 of her races she has won so far. All 4 were at $45,000 prizemoney for those races , where she got about $27k for each win. (Including defeating the Aussie Raider Kyvalley Ray who won the harness millions last week ) 

So her career sits at $110,000 earnings already which is deserving of the best 2 yearold in the country. 👍🏆

The races were at Invercargill , Auckland and 2 at Addington with 5, 7, 7 and 6 runners . this weeks field is smaller as is restricted to Fillies only. she was beating the colts lately.

Is amazing money for 2 yearold trotters !!, but the Pacers races for double that a lot of the time 🤔.

Think of it as great encouragement to get owners buying good trot breeds that will get to the track at an early age , because they can get some great monetary reward . and race from a mobile start regularly.  2 great things 👍💰

Is WAY better than waiting to 4 as a maiden racing for 9k in a 14- 18 horse field on a Grass track somewhere 🤣😉 and getting skittled every 2nd start lol. 😂 and racing from those standing starts that are thwart with 'danger'. and wreck a horses confidence quite often. Even champ John Dunn has problems at times, so shows how tricky it really is. 

[the galah]

16 hours ago, Gammalite said:

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Think of it as great encouragement to get owners buying good trot breeds that will get to the track at an early age , because they can get some great monetary reward . and race from a mobile start regularly.  2 great things 👍💰

 

if what you said actually played out ,then yes that would make sense.

But it doesn't and has never done so.

Your making an argument that simply ignores reality.

trainers/owners know that pushing their young horses to enable them to be a likely also ran in a high stake race is rather pointless and often counterproductive.

its been like that for decades.How long a pattern do people have to have befiore they see something.

Administrators can ignore the obvious,but its obvious to everyone else..

administrators woke up a little with their 2 year old bonuses this year and announced and in effect announced,hey these 2 year old bonuses we have been paying,well,duh,they failed to get any more starters so what we will try next is ,lets pay them $4000 to run last at their first 2 year old start if a horse meets the sale conditions..In other words they admitted they had failed but doubled down on failure and went again with another hair brained scheme that benefitted only a very small % of the industry.

 

Edited 6 hours ago by the galah

[Gammalite]

1 hour ago, the galah said:

But it doesn't and has never done so.

Your making an argument that simply ignores reality.

trainers/owners know that pushing their young horses to enable them to be a likely also ran in a high stake race is rather pointless and often counterproductive.

its been like that for decades

Think you're living in the past a bit , when 2 yearold trots were just Non-tote run before the race program.

This century the leading stables are excellent at getting young horses to the races.

I guess I have to Grant you leeway as the South Island with it's Cold weather , has always been notoriously slow at getting horses to the races at a young age.

NEWS FLASH : Mr Galah . The season dates changed . Is now excellent to get your 2 year-old to the races this time of year before they turn 3 on January 1st. 

HRNZ (and ALL the Aus states have been excellent at running SIRES Stakes racing for 2 , 3 ( and in Aus 4 year olds as well) this is always Super important. You also have the excellent Harness Millions and great stuff like that.

Don't talk about Owners like they're stupid . They want their horses at the races at an early age , and your leading trainers ARE CAPABLE of doing this . Counterproductive ???? that's just rubbish mate 🤣.  (well I guess it's counterproductive to those that can't train as well as Barry 😂😂, but only Mark is better and he has the same Roy bloodlines ? 😁🏆💰

Barry Purdon/Phelan had MEANT TO BE and a couple of other young trotters earning Big money last year. As does the Dunn's and Hope's (great trainers of young 2 and 3 year old trotters) and their Owners GET a QUID.  Great trainers getting great results 

the pacing section see's Stonewall keen to get Amongst these HUGE 2 year old pacing racing. Telfers are great trainers getting the YOUNGSTERS going , (Like Barry/Phelan and Ray Green in the North) and so get a Lot of Wins.

Marketplace was terrific last season as 2 yearold (with the Choc's as well pushing him hard) Allstars .

Heres another Example I would think if you Phone the Stonewall Bloke that paid  $300,000  for 2 yearlings each,  early this year at record prices , he will be expecting them to hit the track and wwwwwwin as 2 year olds.? 

He won't be just 'popping them in the paddock' . Like your good old days until they're 4 . 🤣😉  of course they' lol be pushing them . Mad if they don't . They're tough well bred horses.  

Buy a yearling . race at 2 . All the leading Aus barns do that too. 

1 hour ago, the galah said:

But it doesn't and has never done so.

Your making an argument that simply ignores reality.

You are ignoring the real REALITY my friend. Haven't you watched the trends this century ?  

(Just as a small note for you, I used to qualify my horses in NZ as a late 2 yearold. But the weather turned to nasty by Winter when the season ended , so they were spelled un-raced usually, and I raced them in Maiden 3 year olds in the summer when horses are easier to work/train and the enjoyment is much better. Now with the Season date Change to the Normal year Calender ( A TRULY EXCELLENT DEVELOPEMENT) you can race your 2 year-old towards the end of the year EVERY Season , at the end of the year  now. No excuses!!!  . It has been the major breakthrough the Sport Needed ) 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Gammalite