Chief Stipe Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 hours ago, Huey said: Laughable nonsense from you @Chief Stipe plenty of tracks with holes in them , slips , rail out etc etc and youre worried about a helicopter drying a track and supposed leaders bias. So basically you are agreeing 100% with me. Many of our tracks are shyte and lack consistency which turns off punters and frustrated Trainers and Owners. Quote
curious Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: So basically you are agreeing 100% with me. Many of our tracks are shyte and lack consistency which turns off punters and frustrated Trainers and Owners. To say nothing of Entain. Quote
Chief Stipe Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 10 minutes ago, curious said: To say nothing of Entain. Yes ENTAIN seems to be pissed off with NZ tracks too. Quote
hesi Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago It has always surprised me, as it is Entain's money on the line, that they have not had a lot more 'insistence' about where money should be spent. Or have they? Quote
Huey Posted 11 hours ago Author Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Isn't that your criticism of the "boring Ruakaka track"? No way it played that bad Quote
curious Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 minute ago, hesi said: It has always surprised me, as it is Entain's money on the line, that they have not had a lot more 'insistence' about where money should be spent. Or have they? Well they've certainly laid it on the line now that if NZTR don't pull finger and get tracks and field sizes sorted, we won't make sustainable code payments at current levels at the end of the 5 year deal. That said, Entain don't need the racing codes to have a viable NZ business. As Vouris kept saying, our core business is selling bets. Plenty of other things to sell those on. 1 Quote
curious Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Huey said: No way it played that bad I wouldn't give much credence to BS's assessment of that either. 1 Quote
Huey Posted 11 hours ago Author Posted 11 hours ago 58 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Yes ENTAIN seems to be pissed off with NZ tracks too. Can you blame them, your Centralisation mates have tried to close and sell of half of them. Quote
Chief Stipe Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 25 minutes ago, curious said: I wouldn't give much credence to BS's assessment of that either. But you havent watched any races. Quote
Chief Stipe Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 34 minutes ago, Huey said: No way it played that bad No it played worse. Quote
Chief Stipe Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Huey said: Can you blame them, your Centralisation mates have tried to close and sell of half of them. Well @Huey I'm sure there is a Club out there that needs your executive experience and insight. Kumara needs you. Quote
Freda Posted 48 minutes ago Posted 48 minutes ago 10 hours ago, curious said: Well they've certainly laid it on the line now that if NZTR don't pull finger and get tracks and field sizes sorted, we won't make sustainable code payments at current levels at the end of the 5 year deal. That said, Entain don't need the racing codes to have a viable NZ business. As Vouris kept saying, our core business is selling bets. Plenty of other things to sell those on. Field sizes ( all tied up with programming and dates) is something that you and a couple of other enlightened sorts have been trying to get attention on, with little interest from management. As has been pointed out many times, the exodus to Aus isn't totally stakes driven. The Chief has made reference himself about the lack of opportunity for sprinting fillies, for one, hence the need to send those types over the ditch. There are heaps of other examples. The revitalizing of racedays from the viewpoint of young people is important fot sure, as well as stable open days and other initiatives to get a different demographic involved. But the industry as a whole has to be sustainable and it hasnt been without top- ups from other than betting revenue. I've held stable open days ( in a modest way) as have Kezia Murphy and Anna Furlong more recently, and all very well received. But getting tracks renovated properly and in a timely fashion is vital to getting back some punter confidence. No good taking pot shots at me, Chief, smarter people than me have been trying for years - decades- to get some traction, to no avail. Quote
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