Some of the scheduling stuffups..

[mikeynz]

Ashburton, 2 days before Wingatui, Wingatui 2 days before Washdyke, Washdyke 2 days before Kurow, now I know it's Xmas holiday time but some of the scheduling is a fuck up, clearly Ashburton has impacted on Timaru, not the smartest.

[Mustang Kenny]

yes and all that following a six week gap with NO grass track racing in Canterbury!  It's bullshit really

[Freda]

8 hours ago, Mustang Kenny said:

yes and all that following a six week gap with NO grass track racing in Canterbury!  It's bullshit really

Damn right, Kenny.  

[Chief Stipe]

14 hours ago, Mustang Kenny said:

yes and all that following a six week gap with NO grass track racing in Canterbury!  It's bullshit really

How long has the programme been published?

[Freda]

7 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

How long has the programme been published?

Probably for three months

 

[Chief Stipe]

25 minutes ago, Freda said:

Probably for three months

 

So a bit late to be complaining now.  

Who was involved in setting the programme?

Who benefits most from it?
 

[curious]

2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

How long has the programme been published?

They come out every 4 months in their final form. This one in October.

[Freda]

2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

So a bit late to be complaining now.  

Who was involved in setting the programme?

Who benefits most from it?
 

Complaining achieves nothing.

[curious]

2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

So a bit late to be complaining now.  

Who was involved in setting the programme?

Who benefits most from it?
 

If you are going to change anything, this is the time to be doing it before the dates setting process gets under way in the new year. Once those are finalised in May, it's too late.

As to who benefits from it, I have no clue and can't think of any possibilities.

[Mustang Kenny]

we complained on mass last year and got exactly the same this year for our troubles

 

[Huey]

4 hours ago, Freda said:

Complaining achieves nothing.

Exactly,  yet another example of the fantasy NZ  racing world @Chief Stipe lives in.

[Freda]

10 minutes ago, Huey said:

Exactly,  yet another example of the fantasy NZ  racing world @Chief Stipe lives in.

Canterbury clubs pushed back against the placement of yesterday's Ashburton races but to no avail.

[curious]

25 minutes ago, Freda said:

Canterbury clubs pushed back against the placement of yesterday's Ashburton races but to no avail.

When was that?

[Chief Stipe]

No one has answered the question:

WHO BENEFITS?  Until you answer that question then you can't change anything.

PS: @Huey your snipes are irrelevant and childish.

[Chief Stipe]

28 minutes ago, Freda said:

Canterbury clubs pushed back against the placement of yesterday's Ashburton races but to no avail.

When did they ask?

2 minutes ago, curious said:

When was that?

WHO was it?  Which Clubs?  Was one of them the Canterbury Jockey Club?

[curious]

10 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

No one has answered the question:

WHO BENEFITS?  Until you answer that question then you can't change anything.

Can anyone think of who might? Unless somehow NZTR think it improves wagering revenue?

[Huey]

23 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

No one has answered the question:

WHO BENEFITS?  Until you answer that question then you can't change anything.

PS: @Huey your snipes are irrelevant and childish.

PS @Chief Stipe comments like yours show you are naive of the workings of the industry in NZ & you shouldn't comment.

You obviously have no clue how poorly the industry in this country is run.

Absolutely delusional!

[Chief Stipe]

59 minutes ago, Huey said:

PS @Chief Stipe comments like yours show you are naive of the workings of the industry in NZ & you shouldn't comment.

Since you are now professing to be an expert on the subject - WHO BENEFITS FROM THIS PROGRAMMING DECISION?

If you are so much in the know then reveal ALL!!

Or are you just an irrelevant blowhard?

[Special Agent]

On 12/25/2025 at 7:13 PM, curious said:

Can anyone think of who might? Unless somehow NZTR think it improves wagering revenue?

No, who benefits is anyone's guess.  If everything racing was as black and white as the Chief thinks dates and committees would be a piece of cake.  The sector groups would meet, apply common sense and everyone in the industry would benefit.

Some dates appear to be set in stone and are almost impossible to change.  At the moment the trend is Sunday dates for an increased turnover, until another idea surfaces.

Aren't the draft calendars out now, so the time to question, query and suggest changes is right now?  Like Kenny suggested though, little notice is taken even with multiple back ups.  If dates are not working, like the Ashburton example, stronger submissions will be required with backing from every group.  Someone with time on their hands needs to co-ordinate a different approach with an improved turnover plan top of the agenda.

I don't know what the answer is, other than a different approach.  I think online meetings take away the importance and provide dismissive attitudes.  You can't beat looking at the whites of your opponents eyes.