Thomass Posted January 11 Posted January 11 So after George Rooke's cheating in the Wakatoo Cup...3 over the limit...then went back to Coventry for a holiday over Xmas We had Aussie Angela Jones fined EXACTLY the same % for being 1 over ..3500!!!! if you please...with the 'amazingly brilliant RIB' commenting "we find this appropriate"..she'd be fair dinky dye SPEWING im picking How can it be "appropropriate" when she made a minor counting error (being a freshy) by one when the obvious cheaters like George (3 over) get the same % fine Not only that but the exalted RIB commented that 'due to the 2nd jockey also being over the limit we find no further penalty for George" What about the 3rd horse who was only a neck away and probably winning if it wasn't for the cheating? FFS Anyway onwards to yet another cheating black type jockey in Matt Cartwright when winning by a neck on SANTA CATALINA Fined 3800!!!! when also 1 over! Actually 2 over...but long story short in NZTR/RIB's convoluted ideas re whip rules ok... if he'd struck 3 times in the last 100M not 4 he'd have paid ZILCH! How dumb and dumber are these 'integrity hogwarts' FFS?? here's the solution Adopt Frano Gallops whip rule...4 stikes only throughout the race...if a jockey cant count to 4...take the entire % riding fee out of their pockets...and the winning owners donate their winning difference to the rule abiding 2nd horse...it's just that simple or maybe just relegate to ENABLE the INTEGRITY of Black Type to remain?? even more simple 2 Quote
bono Posted Wednesday at 12:03 AM Posted Wednesday at 12:03 AM Interesting James MacDonald fined 20k and 10 days suspended after winning a $2M race last Saturday 9 strikes before 100m when 5 allowed with 20 in total..wins 0.5L How many countries in the World allow that many strikes now? Surely if you're that many over the allowance the resultant penalty should be DISQUALIFICATION? Sam Weatherly was exactly the same count over when on PIER in 5th position last week Fined $300 and gets to keep the same plus fee It's blatant cheating isn't it? Quote
Murray Fish Posted Wednesday at 04:58 AM Posted Wednesday at 04:58 AM 4 hours ago, bono said: It's blatant cheating isn't it? Or perhaps the rules as they are not working because in the heat of the moment!!! WACK WACK WACK! Perhaps a good place to start might be to ask the question, in which countries are the rules they have actually working? best? I will share my actual opinion! so you don't have to make it up!!!! based on what various riders present and past have said! Bred and train the horse to go into the Starting Stalls. Whips to be carried for H&S. Bred and train horse to run well without the whip being needed! Quote
bono Posted yesterday at 03:51 AM Posted yesterday at 03:51 AM First up many thanks for being put on moderation Yes it works very well in old blighty Max 6 allowed and 4 over is a DQ Let's face it, it should be 3 If you can't count to 6, then cheat like J Mac did in doing 4 over He and the horse should be gonnnne It would soon stop don't you think? Quote
Chief Stipe Posted yesterday at 03:54 AM Posted yesterday at 03:54 AM 3 minutes ago, bono said: First up many thanks for being put on moderation Yes it works very well in old blighty Max 6 allowed and 4 over is a DQ Let's face it, it should be 3 If you can't count to 6, then cheat like J Mac did in doing 4 over He and the horse should be gonnnne It would soon stop don't you think? Whatever @Thomass Quote
Thomass Posted 22 hours ago Author Posted 22 hours ago Typical Aussie rules allows 'natural justice' and cheating Mackers get his days suspended halved but fine doubles Just so he can ride in a big race in a few weeks time ffs, what's 20K to Jammie when he could be making 100K + in %'s? It's like our ridiculous Traffic fines...when a millionaire gets the same 'fine' as a working class hero..now demerit points hurt millionaire boy racers Demerit points = suspensions How easily bought are Aussies...and as soft hearted as butter wouldn't melt for a sob story Did J Mack start bawling his eyes out or something? Quote
Thomass Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago Good on James McDonald for appealing and getting a reduced suspension and only a doubling of the fine to 40K The stipes pointed out it was a 2yo and shouldn't be overly punished Oh cmon, talk about woke, any horse can take 20 strikes including 2yo's cant they? Quote
Chief Stipe Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 10 minutes ago, Thomass said: Oh cmon, talk about woke, any horse can take 20 strikes including 2yo's cant they? Didn't stop it winning. PS: I put the following game in the post for you. Quote
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