curious Posted 2 hours ago Author Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 5 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Yes but I showed some restraint in saying what I thought of it. I'm disappointed that you think this graph has any meaning. You would get the same line if you put Marketing Expenditure vs Turnover on the axis. Or Turnover vs Expenditure. Well if you have better data or analysis on the correlation between turnover and stakes supporting your view that they are unrelated, please post it. At this point your restraint appears to be due to you having no evidence to the contrary. Edited 2 hours ago by curious Quote
Chief Stipe Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, hesi said: Racing has to make sure it uses the money it does get wisely and putting it into races that generate a higher turnover is one avenue. Yes, there are many others. Focusing on Stakes vs Turnover is doomed to fail. The focus should be on the fundamentals - providing safe tracks and facilities for horses to train and race on. Quote
hesi Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Not so much a focus just on stakes/turnover But stakes are the biggest cost to the industry and turnover is the biggest effective income to the industry, so it has to be the main focus. Less money allocated to stakes would mean more money for infrastructure, just as higher turnover would Quote
Chief Stipe Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 26 minutes ago, hesi said: Not so much a focus just on stakes/turnover But stakes are the biggest cost to the industry and turnover is the biggest effective income to the industry, so it has to be the main focus. Less money allocated to stakes would mean more money for infrastructure, just as higher turnover would Stakes have been the main focus for decades. Increasing them has resulted in a loss in participation NOT an increase. Perhaps @curious can post that two variable graph. A bit like Clubs focussing on the Party rather than raising money to maintain their infrastructure. They now expect the Industry to fund that instructure but the pot isn't big enough! Quote
Murray Fish Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: They now expect the Industry to fund that instructure but the pot isn't big enough! They being? The big 7 clubs? Quote
Chief Stipe Posted 58 minutes ago Posted 58 minutes ago 5 minutes ago, Murray Fish said: They being? The big 7 clubs? All Clubs. None of them are making enough to fund their maintenance. Lets face it a 2000m turf track be it at a "BIG Club" or a "SMALL Club" has the same basic maintenance and renovation costs. The only difference is if you race once or twice a year you can defer the renovation part. Quote
curious Posted 12 minutes ago Author Posted 12 minutes ago 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Focusing on Stakes vs Turnover is doomed to fail. The focus should be on the fundamentals - providing safe tracks and facilities for horses to train and race on. So, isn't wagering the primary source of revenue which funds safe tracks and facilities as well as stakes? Quote
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