NZTR's Rule 801 Update - Serious Racing Offence - public comment scope broadened

[Chief Stipe]

9 hours ago, Nowornever said:

Most of the vile abusive remarks online would stem from losing punters IMO.

Yes and I've hidden a fair number of such posts on BOAY.  

But not all are losing punter.  There are some individuals that are active participants in the industry that constantly make degrading and abusive comments while spreading a false narrative that has no relationship to fact.

[curious]

1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

As for your contribution to Morty's case regarding the Bill of Rights Act - that was purely an academic sideshow.  No precedent was set in that regard.  If someone wants to test the new rule if enforced then good luck to them.  I'm sure you'll pull all your old notes out.

Totally agree. At the time I posted in that Mortygate thread on the Caf

"the credit lies entirely with Mr. Morton, his supportive wife, and his advocate. I was but a spare part."

[hesi]

56 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Yes and I've hidden a fair number of such posts on BOAY.  

But not all are losing punter.  There are some individuals that are active participants in the industry that constantly make degrading and abusive comments while spreading a false narrative that has no relationship to fact.

Where do you draw the line.  Are they allowed to do this simply because it is their opinion.

I really hope NZTR takes a tough line with these characters that give the impression that this is the norm for the industry, simply because a small number are so incessant with their remarks.

 

[curious]

There are some individuals that are active participants in the industry that constantly make degrading and abusive comments"

You keep saying this but where's the evidence? @Chief Stipe you say you hide them, presumably because they are that in your opinion.

And @hesi, if you "draw a line". Where? And how do you action or enforce it? Otherwise, it's just a further meaningless waste of time.

Edited 6 hours ago by curious

[curious]

16 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

That was never tested in a higher court and you are being selective in your quotation.  In my opinion McKechnie was wrong.

Dismissal: On September 8, 2015, the Judicial Control Authority (JCA) dismissed the serious racing offence charges, labeling the evidence "bordering on the hopeless".

[Murray Fish]

4 hours ago, hesi said:

I really hope NZTR takes a tough line with these characters that give the impression that this is the norm for the industry, simply because a small number are so incessant with their remarks.

na, the courts are for feed the Lawyer$!

Reality 101   Law trumps policy or rules! @Chief Stipe  

There are two parts that jump out at me!  

1,  that to me is not actually that important!!!!    re "small number are so incessant with their remarks.",  is there Libel at play! Misogyny in play?   *down the rabbit hole*  Tick, tick, tick.  Usually their own toxicity persons themselves and sadly often people closely associated with them..  give them rope...

2, Personally,  I have way more concerns for some of the NASTY that some Jockeys have to put up with, especially some of the woman riders and media players!!!!  My fb acc has multi 100's of 'Jockey Friends', some of the post they have highlighted have been way beyond criticism!  Best of luck 'prosecuting' them,  more often the are young and male and can often have some organic connection to racing, that adding to their Entitlement to Rave!  Often that lack real insights into their ravings....

Personally,  I have come across it!!!,  via a person, with a connection to a Club! they got  of the official photographer a photo of me and partner outside the birdcadge,  turned them into HATE MEMES with NASTY Sexual shit implied!!! and posted them up!!!  sigh,  10 years later I have yet to have the pleasure on meeting him in person! 

 

[Chief Stipe]

4 hours ago, curious said:

"the credit lies entirely with Mr. Morton, his supportive wife, and his advocate. I was but a spare part."

Which is precisely what I said regarding your BORA contribution.

[Chief Stipe]

4 hours ago, curious said:

You keep saying this but where's the evidence? @Chief Stipe you say you hide them, presumably because they are that in your opinion.

Yes on BOAY I do sometimes take a proactive approach.  Unlike other some Social Media site managers who choose traffic over decency and honesty.

On other occasions I have had my attention drawn to abusive or defamatory posts by those affected and I have also chosen to hide those posts.

I'm not sure what your standards are but the posts in question would surely even fail your "social license" test.  

[Chief Stipe]

4 hours ago, curious said:

Dismissal: On September 8, 2015, the Judicial Control Authority (JCA) dismissed the serious racing offence charges, labeling the evidence "bordering on the hopeless".

So?  Again you are being selective in what you quote out of context.