Porn-exposing lawyer also a steward and adjudicator with Racing Integrity Board

[Muzza]

1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

Really?  Since when did you join the convent?  Or is it something in that Racecourse Hotel rum?

Oh dear. Those voices in your head again. 

[curious]

59 minutes ago, Muzza said:

Very well put Freda. That's it in a nutshell. 

I agree. She must have had couple of rums between races

[Chief Stipe]

17 hours ago, Freda said:

It is the context of the event(s) and the lack of integrity inherent in his behavior and the attempts to both dodge consequences and maintain employment in a situation where integrity is not just a like-to-have, it is imperative.

If he can't monitor his own, he has no right to sit in judgement on others.

So that equates to him being a "piece of shit"?

Strong words.  I assume you think you are in a position to judge.

Obviously you haven't looked at the timeline.

That said it appears you haven't read what I posted.  In my opinion the reason I wouldn't have employed him is because he didn't put processes and procedures in place as per the Law Society requirements.  But you overlooked that.

Now there is an old saying that those without sin shall caste the first stone.  Do you think that posting online about your employees indiscretions is without sin?

I don't think what Botherway has done deserves him being called a "piece of shit" online.  But obviously you have lower standards than most.

[curious]

14 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Now there is an old saying that those without sin shall caste the first stone.  Do you think that posting online about your employees indiscretions is without sin?

Where did Freda do that? Assuming you mean indiscretions, not discretions?

[Murray Fish]

8 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

or at least showing some compassion

tick...

sigh,   this be a classical case of stupid male privilege being play out in a Work Space! phew! a rather expensive Wank!  lol, I presume that here was some Action to be going with the said porn!!! seen or not seen!!!!!!!!!    perhaps, in the end, Not the Happen Ending he wanted!!!!!  from All in hand! to Burst Asunder!!!!!  wow

the unbidden fall out, wow!

[Chief Stipe]

16 hours ago, Muzza said:

Oh dear. Those voices in your head again. 

Going by what you post it must be difficult for you living with yours.  All those dark clouds.

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Well that ends that topic.  No doubt the subject will be added from time to time to the narrative of the anti's and moaners. 

Oh well back to counting whip strikes.  Stuff putting any real energy into getting useful change.

[Chief Stipe]

Just for the  @Comic Dog record if anyone thinks I'm supporting this individual's actions that led to the Law Society case - I'm not.  However I do support his right to be able to move on and in that respect I have some compassion for the person.  I realise for some that are challenged and have a propensity to muck rake and be negative about all things racing that is a difficult concept to grasp.  What is even more laughable that those pointing the finger often display disgusting attitudes online while hiding behind non-de-plumes.  

Nor should it be construed that I support the subsequent actions of the RIB or the Waikato Rugby Union.

I laugh when I see the baying mob talking about moral high ground and integrity.  I'd love to remind one forum owner of the conversations he and I had over a couple of boozy lunches in Auckland a few years back.  However I accept that we all can readjust our moral compass. 

As I have posted many times before on many topics the fact that Racing tries to project itself as being any better than the rest of society is a mistake that will forever hoist itself on its own petard.  Then to make things worse to double punish someone because the industry deems they need to show they set higher standards projects an image of elitism and creates incredulity.  Afterall those in the industry are no different to anyone else in the wider community.  Australia seems much more grown up on these matters.  NZ - yeah na.

We all make mistakes and if those online projecting that they are holier than thou honestly applied the same moral compass to themselves then show me the last man standing.  He will either be a very good liar or have a very good lawyer.