Thomass Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 So Trainer McKay lobs up after the race for the post race interview... "we knew he'd get an uncontested lead...the other Jockeys told Shaun they'd leave him alone" WTF? So this is MASSIVE quality dead set GOLD information! It's the very same reason why the Feds are investigating the Harness rort...other drivers knowing there's an uncontested lead and betting into the information... ABSOLUTELY no suggestion anyone did this in this instance...but the problem is IT COULD be.... It raises a very serious INTEGRITY issue then... Should Jockeys be talking tactics with one another before any race...particularly way before the race as in this instance... Where any amount of people could have received this information over and above average Joe Punter If this interview had have happened in HK they'd be hell to pay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Reminds me of a harness race many many moons ago where it was expected by the driver of our horse that a particular horse would hand up the lead. He didn't and both dug their toes and murdered each others chances. No Plan B in that instance. If the quote is actually accurate then I would say it was very unwise for the trainer to make the comment. Dummie Myers all over again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Thomass said: So Trainer McKay lobs up after the race for the post race interview... "we knew he'd get an uncontested lead...the other Jockeys told Shaun they'd leave him alone" you have missed the bit "jockeys are not stupid, they know that if the do get drawn into a speed battle then they all lose" (or something like that). For what it's worth! why would you want to take on a noted front runner like The M??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 Well big ups to Pete for being naively honest! It basically gets him off the hook for using the info to punt the bejesus out of it.... Its quaint 'Integrity' NZ Inc. The Feds will look, listen...but their ears are painted on and they won't want to create a schtir... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Murray Fish said: you have missed the bit "jockeys are not stupid, they know that if the do get drawn into a speed battle then they all lose" (or something like that). For what it's worth! why would you want to take on a noted front runner like The M??? Too true...but some could be! Lets harbour the POINT though...in case anyone misses it... Its about certain 'punters' knowing this information...."other Jockeys told us they won't contest the lead...so just get on" That kind of thing...then their mates...and their mates mates In Australia they get to hear this info as a matter of course... HK Punters would have rioted by now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Murray Fish said: you have missed the bit "jockeys are not stupid, they know that if the do get drawn into a speed battle then they all lose" (or something like that). Really ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 You have to wonder now what these Jocks are talking about pre race... ...and there's a HELL of a lot of 'talk' going on... Is it..."ok, you take the lead...I'll get a drag...So now I'm just going to signal to my mates in the stand...to GET ON" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Thomass said: You have to wonder now what these Jocks are talking about pre race... ...and there's a HELL of a lot of 'talk' going on... Is it..."ok, you take the lead...I'll get a drag...So now I'm just going to signal to my mates in the stand...to GET ON" What I think you struggle to understand! There is a needed comradery to be displayed from all riders because of safety issues.. it's horses they are riding not cars! . also, for most! there needs to be a sharing culture, be it sharing driving (to be keeping the costs down!), be it sharing the ever struggles with weight and disappointments! Once in the gates! chaos rules! The position taken up in the running of any race involves many factors! Human choice being one! With the brilliant digital cameras that are in use today rather negate the various skulldugger that might have be gotten away with in the past! i could continue in this vain.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 23 hours ago, Freda said: Really ? ???? I was paraphrasing what the trainer said.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 5 hours ago, Murray Fish said: What I think you struggle to understand! There is a needed comradery to be displayed from all riders because of safety issues.. it's horses they are riding not cars! . also, for most! there needs to be a sharing culture, be it sharing driving (to be keeping the costs down!), be it sharing the ever struggles with weight and disappointments! Once in the gates! chaos rules! The position taken up in the running of any race involves many factors! Human choice being one! With the brilliant digital cameras that are in use today rather negate the various skulldugger that might have be gotten away with in the past! i could continue in this vain.... Great...love 'mateship' But that I'm afraid doesn't involve asking other 'on pace' Jockeys how they're going to ride a race, the Owner then knowing this vital bit of information... ...where he told us after the race.. they knew they'd not be contesting the lead... ...which he admitted was the Horse's downfall previously... That info is DEADSET GOLD... ...and PUNTERS SHOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT IT... Just like they do in Australia...it's a RULE....ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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