Brodie Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: But they can still win 1700 odd off the horse with a single win bet. Can everyone do that? I think not. They were able to net $2,500 If that is what the NZ TAB allowed, then let every punter be allowed to net $2,500 and not just 10% of that amount! It is just blatant BS that they are allowed to get away with it, however the punters are voting with their feet And the tote pools are pathetic nowadays compared to a few years ago! Edited August 29, 2020 by Brodie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 27 minutes ago, Rangatira said: no what colour are you brodster You are the unique marshall of the Brodster's behaviour aren't you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 Ranga, you said that it was ok to treat people differently, didnt you say? So on what basis is it that business is allowed to treat people some people favourably and others not, in your opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Brodie said: Ranga, you said that it was ok to treat people differently, didnt you say? So on what basis is it that business is allowed to treat people some people favourably and others not, in your opinion? Mistreating people financially is not taboo. I would say it is actually encouraged in a lot of ways.. The TAB is a business, just so happens this business is a few weeks after its own Wall Street Crash so entry is limited to suckers only and will be for a few years to come. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 If the NZ TAB is only accepting losing punters, then they need to advertise the fact, otherwise it is misrepresentation! NZ TAB only accept wagering from losing punters, and if you are wanting to be a winning punter, piss off you are not welcome as a customer! Bet responsibly providing you are only going to be a consistent losing punter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewFitzgerald Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 On 28/08/2020 at 7:42 PM, Brodie said: Matt Peden, Boomaker spokesperson for the Bookies in Wellington, how about. being a Bookmaker and let all the punters in NZ get their wagers on! I thought a Bookmaker was supposed to put up odds and then punters take them? You let some punters on for thousands and yet others get a pittance on!! Matt, Is this the way the NZ TAB are going to continue to operate?? NZ TAB arent interested in that, they pick and choose who that let wager with them! What you won't know is that Matthew Peden goes on air on his spare time - he's not paid for doing that, purely does it because he loves Harness Racing and wants to see us prosper. He's not their spokesperson, he does it because he wants to help out our code and from the markets I've watched, there seems to be some good money being invested after Matt's comments come on the TV He's a pricer at the TAB - he doesn't trade the markets, so he's not the person you need to be complaining to/about re getting a bet on. He's just another person in the game doing stuff purely for the love of the game, without getting paid for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, AndrewFitzgerald said: What you won't know is that Matthew Peden goes on air on his spare time - he's not paid for doing that, purely does it because he loves Harness Racing and wants to see us prosper. He's not their spokesperson, he does it because he wants to help out our code and from the markets I've watched, there seems to be some good money being invested after Matt's comments come on the TV He's a pricer at the TAB - he doesn't trade the markets, so he's not the person you need to be complaining to/about re getting a bet on. He's just another person in the game doing stuff purely for the love of the game, without getting paid for it. Tell him to keep giving out 1.80 for Self Assured. Three times now it has doubled all my multis. Money for jam. Edited August 29, 2020 by Nowornever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewFitzgerald Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, Nowornever said: Tell him to keep giving out 1.80 for Self Assured. Three times now it has doubled all my multis. Money for jam. SA is a superstar! Mark's had the big wrap on him for a while now, Lazarus was the last horse that i personally saw Mark talk so highly of. Hope you didn't have to search the bin for your multi tickets after throwing them away like the fella i witnessed do exactly that haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 8 hours ago, AndrewFitzgerald said: What you won't know is that Matthew Peden goes on air on his spare time - he's not paid for doing that, purely does it because he loves Harness Racing and wants to see us prosper. Good on him. That information changes everything. It just annoys the hell out of me that he is on air for free while seemingly representing the TAB but he is actually not? How do the TAB allow someone to do what he is doing and sit back and take all the profit (literally) and not pay him? There is a lot of that going on at the moment with the likes of your show trying to replicate the Box Seat and other things which are passing responsibilities onto clubs and volunteers. 8 hours ago, AndrewFitzgerald said: He's just another person in the game doing stuff purely for the love of the game, without getting paid for it. There is some bean counter or board member (maybe one and the same) who is sitting back and watching all this unfold feeling smug because the TAB's bottom line is being taken care. Be warned Mr Bean Counter that once the goodwill of participants lower down the food chain runs out there is nowhere else to turn and you will be royally stuffed. There is something just not quite right with what is going on at the moment. This Matthew Peden case is an excellent example for a raft of reasons. People are being used. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 (edited) Fair enough, I was not attacking Matt Peden, and good on him for coming on to Trackside, He may well only be a market pricer and not being paid for his Trackside efforts! However, by being on air for the TAB, he is condoning what the NZ TAB is doing with their Bookies! He comes on and says that there are bets of this and that at odds, all the time knowing that his employer the NZ TAB is not allowing other punters to wager!! The fact is that there are punters all around NZ not being allowed to place wagers on horses that the NZ TAB put up odds for! If they dont want to accept bets and be a Bookmaker in NZ, then get out the fixed odds market and go back to totalisator only. It is a blatant disgrace that in this day and age that they only allow certain punters to net a few hundred dollars!!!!!!!! And Phil Holden states that he wants to drive turnover up??????? Edited August 29, 2020 by Brodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boobybec Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 14 hours ago, Brodie said: If a small nostril is a mile off the money then maybe. Reality is that Minstrel doesnt win if Wild Irish hadve dropped in behind minstrel rather than Leading. Point is that Minstrel was shockingly unders at $2 I disagree. Look through minstrel's career most of his wins he hasn't won by much, just one of those horses who does just enough. Let me guess you thought Majestic Man was good value at $2? ..... it doesnt matter i suppose as the brodster can't unload if he wants to either ..... speaking of unloading hmm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 13 hours ago, Brodie said: Ranga, you said that it was ok to treat people differently, didnt you say? that i did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Brodie said: So on what basis is it that business is allowed to treat people some people favourably and others not, in your opinion? when they value your custom and wish to retain it Edited August 29, 2020 by Rangatira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, Rangatira said: when they value your custom and wish to retain it So on that basis Ranga, in your opinion, can a business choose not to welcome people of different race or colour? On what basis does the NZ TAB choose to not accept wagers from certain punters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, boobybec said: I disagree. Look through minstrel's career most of his wins he hasn't won by much, just one of those horses who does just enough. Let me guess you thought Majestic Man was good value at $2? ..... it doesnt matter i suppose as the brodster can't unload if he wants to either ..... speaking of unloading hmm Minstrel would not have beaten Wild Irish if it was leading and Wild Irish trailed!!! Wild Irish went better than Minstrel who had the easier run in the trail and only got there by a small nostril. No I didnt think Majestic Man was any value at $2. I do not invest on shorties whatsoever! And correct, I can not offload on anything nowadays, and to be fair the Friday night fields are not making for great punting anyway! Edited August 29, 2020 by Brodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Brodie said: So on that basis Ranga, in your opinion, can a business choose not to welcome people of different race or colour? i am certain i answered that previously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, Brodie said: On what basis does the NZ TAB choose to not accept wagers from certain punters? i can't be certain do you shower regularly brodster ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 58 minutes ago, Rangatira said: i am certain i answered that previously So you are saying if you were running a business and you didnt like people of a different race, you would not be dealing with them?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 59 minutes ago, Rangatira said: i can't be certain do you shower regularly brodster ? Ranga, you certainly know how to kick for touch! Reality is that you know that the way the TAB operates is wrong, and your defence of it is just so you can be a tosser! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 24 minutes ago, Brodie said: So you are saying if you were running a business and you didnt like people of a different race, you would not be dealing with them?? no i never said that feel free to point out where i did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 22 minutes ago, Brodie said: Ranga, you certainly know how to kick for touch! Reality is that you know that the way the TAB operates is wrong, and your defence of it is just so you can be a tosser! you avoided the question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 58 minutes ago, Rangatira said: no i never said that feel free to point out where i did You said that business have the right to treat people differently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Brodie said: You said that business have the right to treat people differently of course they do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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