mardigras Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 52 minutes ago, Thomass said: ...form in HK....My Gift....after 2apparently bad performances...and out of form... I'll have to update the blue print. Firstly, limited HK form is superior to NZ Black Type. Have I got that right. And also, seems you don't mind backing 4 in a race. Good to see. As for My Gift, I priced it at 8s and hadn't factored in HK or the allowance. Strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 That's right...you know the Blue Print now I treat HK form as special..especially back to a mid weaker...with a 3kg drop ...and his running within a length last start...after moi's manipulating the speed for a wide run... ...which you don't do..."3L either way...doesn't matter to me"...dickhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 So the order is HK anything, then Aussie Black Type from G1 down to Listed, then NZ Black Type from G1 down to Listed. Thanks. I'll update the selections for the next few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 HK and Aus city form is gold coming back here... Not only that but a trip often turns them from a boy into a man... Only very well bred or good race performers go to HK...if they show form then go off due to the high pressure environment... ...they often come back here and show up again Just look at Vance's latest two winners here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 It's just another stupid statistic. You're becoming famous for them. Just read your own post. Things like 'they often'. Stupid is as stupid does and you do it better than any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 And yours is "generally" Theres no robotic exacting stats when it comes to human and animal behaviour In My Gifts case he continued on with his previous HK form...according to moi As stated... his last two starts were unlucky wide runs...you know the research... .."drag is a massive influence" Then You stupidly used a Harness example " but they run wide facing the breeze in Harness" f me...go back to dunce school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Thomass said: And yours is "generally" None of which I use in punting. None. I use 'generally' to describe what happens 'generally'. It's worthless. You can't apply population stats and expect to profit. Which is what you try to do and is why you lose. Edited November 14, 2018 by mardigras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, mardigras said: None of which I use in punting. None. I use 'generally' to describe what happens 'generally'. It's worthless. You can't apply population stats and expect to profit. Which is what you try to do and is why you lose. And you ignore wide without cover... Where it's been shown drag is a massive negative... not to mention unlucky/slow out...just to embarrass you even more Thats why you lose here...and probably Narrabine/Dipton dogs Edited November 15, 2018 by Thomass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Thomass said: And you ignore wide without cover... Where it's been shown drag is a massive negative... not to mention unlucky/slow out...just to embarrass you even more Thats why you lose here...and probably Narrabine/Dipton dogs I don't lose here. And again, they are generalisations. You can't quantify the impact to the horse's performance, so you pluck a number out of your arse. And then you call that form analysis which is hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Here's your direct quote 'generalisation' "I don't mind...3L either way don't matter to me" Haha...that's moronic All one needs to do is open your eyes Magoo... Unlucky, without cover, slow, checked...Its all quantifiable.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Thomass said: Here's your direct quote 'generalisation' "I don't mind...3L either way don't matter to me" Haha...that's moronic All one needs to do is open your eyes Magoo... Unlucky, without cover, slow, checked...Its all quantifiable.... So how many lengths is two wide without cover for 300 metres in a straight line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 56 minutes ago, mardigras said: So how many lengths is two wide without cover for 300 metres in a straight line? Fool, the Jockey wins the race after pulling out in time for a clear run ffs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Knew you couldn't quantify it. You're a complete waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFear Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Tauranga race 8 #10 Masque. Full sister to G1 winner Costume. Won a trial in August then ran 1.8L 6th 22 Sep 2018 over 1200m. Ran 4.1L 7th last start. Both races doing best work late. 1600m will suit very well here. Mr T if it wins..."Massive" run 0.9L 3rd in LIsted Wellesley Stakes a year ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share Posted November 17, 2018 duplicity in nz cup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 On 15/11/2018 at 4:48 PM, Thomass said: Fool, the Jockey wins the race after pulling out in time for a clear run ffs... Is that what you do with the Princess? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, curious said: Is that what you do with the Princess? More like his race is run before he gets to the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFear Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 6 hours ago, FeelTheFear said: Tauranga race 8 #10 Masque. Full sister to G1 winner Costume. Won a trial in August then ran 1.8L 6th 22 Sep 2018 over 1200m. Ran 4.1L 7th last start. Both races doing best work late. 1600m will suit very well here. Mr T if it wins..."Massive" run 0.9L 3rd in LIsted Wellesley Stakes a year ago. 3rd $3.40 Bet Easy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC! Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 On 13/11/2018 at 11:09 AM, FeelTheFear said: Bayeux 2nd $8.00 Bet Easy. I think it was $13 or $15 a place on Sportsbet Nice selection you’re going well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFear Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 On 17/11/2018 at 3:32 PM, VC! said: I think it was $13 or $15 a place on Sportsbet Nice selection you’re going well Not doing too badly with these outsiders. Have to remind myself that ROI is more important than strike rate. Thanks for your reply 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFear Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Have taken Suliman in the first at Pukekohe today. Got $13 Bet Easy. Loves the wet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFear Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Race 5 #1 River Run. Has ability, been gelded and starting from new stable. Previous runs South Island (Reverse BP). 3rd recent trials Te Rapa. Currently at 12s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFear Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 2 hours ago, FeelTheFear said: Race 5 #1 River Run. Has ability, been gelded and starting from new stable. Previous runs South Island (Reverse BP). 3rd recent trials Te Rapa. Currently at 12s another damn placing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 21 hours ago, FeelTheFear said: Race 5 #1 River Run. Has ability, been gelded and starting from new stable. Previous runs South Island (Reverse BP). 3rd recent trials Te Rapa. Currently at 12s Feary...when you say reverse BP...you do realise that race was a G3 BP event don't you? Had a major injury issue...hence the delayed time line But getting back to Punting Education....yesterday was a fine example of the BP....and what many on here are now including in their daily lives...bless them Many winners came from Premier days...with good form from those days...you know SUPERIOR FORM back to INFERIOR CLASS mid weak message e.g. I coupled TAKITLIKEAMAN, CANTSTOPTHEFEELING, CUTADEEL and QUEEN OF DIAMONDS up into a multi...among others... All close up in large Premier fields back to mid weak class Premier day form is Gold....they're all trying..usually in large fields with the xtra problem of wide and/or unlucky runs The best value however was MONEY TRAIL... ...good recent Premier form in R 75....loves the wet...unlucky when held up last time on a dry track...wasn't out of form at all...although the raw form line suggested it was...and very good course stats...3/6 placings on the sandy course... Sure there were 4/5 others with good prem form as well...but that was the absolute value....in an open race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFear Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 I see Mr T has been waffling under my latest comment, hidden so he is talking to his greatest fan, himself as per usual. Placings lately and Arawa Park race 3 #1 Marbuzet might be one to do so as well. Has had 2 well spaced breaks after erratic runs first 2 races (laying in/laying out). In between has had trials education. Last start fresh up 6th after trials win was promising, 6 lengths from winner after setting the pace over 1400m. Today 300m less and looks a chance if can handle soft track. $21.00 on Bet Easy FO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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