Thomass Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, mardigras said: So, sometimes they cause the horse to run faster. Therefore sometimes they don't. And sometimes they make the horse run slower - or us that not the case? So how does a punter decide beforehand which of the 3 'sometimes' is going to occur? And when the sometimes happens to be 'run faster', how do you know how much faster? Before the race of course. ABSOLUTE MORON Any punter worth their salt trusts the Trainer to know their neddy ffs A punter knows a neddy that fits a certain BLUE PRINT...has not run down the track miles away...without an excuse with Blinkers going on as a last resort But mugs like you and bazz say I ignore the last start...Bazz "3 starts" And then you tell us these Trainers don't know shit Snowdon who virtually sleeps with his neddys...and you tell us he's WRONG DICKHEAD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Thomass said: ABSOLUTE MORON Any punter worth their salt trusts the Trainer to know their neddy ffs You do. But you're not a punter. You're an idiot. I've already provided massive anecdotal evidence that you are wrong. Next you'll be telling me horses that finish within a length of the winner last start are a last chance throw at the dice. Of course they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 30 minutes ago, mardigras said: You do. But you're not a punter. You're an idiot. I've already provided massive anecdotal evidence that you are wrong. Next you'll be telling me horses that finish within a length of the winner last start are a last chance throw at the dice. Of course they are. You don't even know what ANECDOTAL means you twat... not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research. The FACT is a trainer knows his horse backwards... Snowden... "this horse needs Blinkers" Give up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I see the idiot is trying to tell others the meaning of words. Of course the evidence I present is anecdotal. Not proof. There is no proof. But it is of such sufficient quantity and quality it is massively outweighing the contra anecdotal evidence, such that it stands up to scrutiny. Which is something your posts don't. The team here is spot on. You aren't worth the effort responding. You're thick. Get help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Try this for anecdotal. I've observed that horses that finished within 1 length of the winner at its last start, over a number of years, that then have blinkers on first time, produce a lower ROI from tote betting than using a dartboard. Compared to the anecdotal evidence on Redzel. She needs blinkers. Hohohohoho. Merry Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Today, Esp for Thomass to ensure he has enough money to feed himself tomorrow. 14:47 fra R01 7 The Chaser $2.10 16:34 fra R04 2 Church Road $6.50 19:03 fra R08 2 Anatow $8.50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFear Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 minute ago, barryb said: Today, Esp for Thomass to ensure he has enough money to feed himself tomorrow. 14:47 fra R01 7 The Chaser $2.10 16:34 fra R04 2 Church Road $6.50 19:03 fra R08 2 Anatow $8.50 Race 1 Pacific Coast looks great value $8.50 FO Bet Easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFear Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, FeelTheFear said: Race 1 Pacific Coast looks great value $8.50 FO Bet Easy bang. Rated $2.16 Edited December 5, 2018 by FeelTheFear 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 2 hours ago, barryb said: Today, Esp for Thomass to ensure he has enough money to feed himself tomorrow. 14:47 fra R01 7 The Chaser $2.10 16:34 fra R04 2 Church Road $6.50 19:03 fra R08 2 Anatow $8.50 No problem T, yes great price agreed. Keep the princess in suspense for a few more hours 1 bet to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turny Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Good effort Barry - no doubt he will pick the quaddie on a straight ticket tomorrow morning after he has read the results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 4 hours ago, barryb said: No problem T, yes great price agreed. Keep the princess in suspense for a few more hours 1 bet to go. Brill bazz Youre finally getting the BP thing in your wee noggin CR was very nearly a Stakes winner 5 starts back...I priced him at 7's....got 9's A stable change probably helped...better than a stiff Whakachunga to perk listless legs... Xx as well...you really have been reading the BP up....best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 12 minutes ago, Thomass said: Brill bazz Youre finally getting the BP thing in your wee noggin CR was very nearly a Stakes winner 5 starts back...I priced him at 7's....got 9's A stable change probably helped...better than a stiff Whakachunga to perk listless legs... Xx as well...you really have been reading the BP up....best Of course you did T, I boosted it to $15 so I guess I am even slightly happier than you. You wont believe me of course as you are far too dumb to know how or what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 16 minutes ago, barryb said: Of course you did T, I boosted it to $15 so I guess I am even slightly happier than you. You wont believe me of course as you are far too dumb to know how or what. Oh the Corps that let you make a Hundy profit? Onya...Im just happy you're following the BP now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, mardigras said: Try this for anecdotal. I've observed that horses that finished within 1 length of the winner at its last start, over a number of years, that then have blinkers on first time, produce a lower ROI from tote betting than using a dartboard. Compared to the anecdotal evidence on Redzel. She needs blinkers. Hohohohoho. Merry Christmas. These horses must have all been on their last chances. Either that or the trainers in Oz don't know what they're doing. Performance of horses in Oz with blinkers on first time, that finished <= 1 length from winner at previous start. From 2012 until start of June. I don't bother obtaining the info anymore, it has no value. Year Runners Winners TAB Div Strike Rate ROI Avg Div 2012 1231 132 $740.10 10.7% 60.1% $5.61 2013 1593 160 $1,083.60 10.0% 68.0% $6.77 2014 1634 180 $1,358.00 11.0% 83.1% $7.54 2015 1578 163 $1,201.64 10.3% 76.1% $7.37 2016 1743 190 $1,379.60 10.9% 79.2% $7.26 2017 573 62 $336.00 10.8% 58.6% $5.42 8352 887 $6,098.94 10.6% 73.0% $6.88 A dartboard would give you the same strike rate and an ROI of around 85%. Couldn't even do that in any of those years. Edited December 5, 2018 by mardigras 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Wtf is this crap? I realised you were stupid as stupid does...but not this stupid Blinker wearers have to adhere to the BP before I'm on...for 20% AT VALUE...the chances of an under 1L last start performer giving moi any value is highly unlikely Viewers need to be kept reminded just what a loon you are though "REDZEL's trainer is wrong...it doesn't need Blinkers" DICKHEAD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Looks like we have an update to the blueprint. Not if horse finished within 1 length of winner last start as no value. Funny how blinkers on only works for runners that we only find out about - after they've won. And horses that finish a longer distance off the winner, but are down in grade from 2 years ago, they aren't just being given a last chance throw at the dice. This time the trainer is serious - because it won and we're told- again after the race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 It hilarious how everything comes down to stats with you Statsman Do you take a ruler into Curious's boudoir to see if he's grown enough for morning/afternoon delight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Your blueprint is statistical and able to be analysed that way. I didn't write it, you did. And it can't work long term. I've demonstrated that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Yes, the BP is well short of a good length to take any wickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 As I repeatedly say...you're totally ARROGANT Suggesting you know what I do.... ...you can't even work out 'wide without cover' let alone compensate for such 'unlucky'...a complete and utter mystery for a STATSMAN... 'Set weights back to Handicap...no f in idea about that either Its all about 'within x distance' F in clueless is you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 12 hours ago, barryb said: Of course you did T, I boosted it to $15 so I guess I am even slightly happier than you. You wont believe me of course as you are far too dumb to know how or what. Which Corp was that Bazz? Did they let you on for fitty? Being such an eternal winner they must like giving money away... Do they have to guarantee NZ for minimum bets now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 There is zero arrogance in my posts about the blueprint. It has been stated it can be used by punters to improve their punting success and help feed them. The blue print can't be subjective to allow that to happen. Yet when you apply the rules, you end up broke. As I've said, I didn't write it. I simply analyse it. And as is logical, it doesn't stack up. There are no reasons why it would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 34 minutes ago, Thomass said: Which Corp was that Bazz? Did they let you on for fitty? Being such an eternal winner they must like giving money away... Do they have to guarantee NZ for minimum bets now? You would be too stupid to understand how to play some of this stuff Thomass, so I won't waste my time responding with any detail. Your posting on this site show to everyone that you are well short in the intelligence stakes and are an incredibly slow learner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 16 minutes ago, mardigras said: There is zero arrogance in my posts about the blueprint. It has been stated it can be used by punters to improve their punting success and help feed them. The blue print can't be subjective to allow that to happen. Yet when you apply the rules, you end up broke. As I've said, I didn't write it. I simply analyse it. And as is logical, it doesn't stack up. There are no reasons why it would. You're so arrogant...you're even arrogant about being arrogant... Of course I subjectively operate it... Get this...I ACTUALLY OPEN MOI's EYES...to observe how wide, unlucky, slow they've been... ...and adjust times/distance accordingly ...to enhance the algorithmic systems You blankly insert a bunch of set times...which can be wayyyy out stimulate that...and let it spew...all over the place next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 12 minutes ago, barryb said: You would be too stupid to understand how to play some of this stuff Thomass, so I won't waste my time responding with any detail. Your posting on this site show to everyone that you are well short in the intelligence stakes and are an incredibly slow learner. Just pretend you're addressing Wal...in the gutter..needing a winner to feed himself some chups... So he too can be as oarsum as you... Go on admit you assessed yesterday's winner and XX just like I did... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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