Davis Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Congratulations in order to both A Butt and Ms Smith and top kiwi mare Princess Tiffany winning at Melton last night. Butt/Smith picked up a few wins. Two races won by least favoured stablemates, so someone would have made plenty, Hope it was the stablehand. Princess Tiffany continues to pay her way. What a great broodmare she will be for the Whitecocks when she retires from racing. Sadly, her having to racing in Aust is a reflection of how things are here. Does HRNZ care... no. There are no races for the likes of Princess Tiffany here while in OZ she can race every weekend winning most of the time and adding to her stakes record. $1million near?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Yes it is a shame she cant race here every week but she a great moneymaker for the owners.Will develop into one of Australasias premier racehorses.Ants must have thought it Xmas time getting a ready made top class young horse that's ready to race join the stable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Richie said: Yes it is a shame she cant race here every week but she a great moneymaker for the owners.Will develop into one of Australasias premier racehorses.Ants must have thought it Xmas time getting a ready made top class young horse that's ready to race join the stable Our Princess Tiffany is with Dean Braun as trainer, (Bloke who trained Cruz Bromac before it joined Allstars) Not Ants with her unfortunately. Anthony did get 4th In the Hunter Cup with WOLF STRIDE as well last night, so picked up 25k for that ! very nice ! just half a length behind King Of Swing , so the Wolf might be a force to be reckoned with this year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 More nz horses going overseas, nth island is gonna struggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Newmarket said: More nz horses going overseas, nth island is gonna struggle Goes to show that increase in stakes makes no difference,Auckland stakes best in country and yet they struggle to get full fields. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Richie said: Goes to show that increase in stakes makes no difference,Auckland stakes best in country and yet they struggle to get full fields. The handicap system is not working. There are few races for top class mares or those horses who are cup class or near to it but cannot foot it with the big guns, the likes of Star Galleria and Vintage Cheddar. I don't understand the grading system. In Canterbury the same horses seem to race at every meeting, all the fields are ordinary and uninspiring. Rangiora fields today are boring and I won't be betting. Edited February 8, 2021 by Davis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, Davis said: The handicap system is not working. There are few races for top class mares or those horses who are cup class or near to it but cannot foot it with the big guns, the likes of Star Galleria and Vintage Cheddar. I don't understand the grading system. In Canterbury the same horses seem to race at every meeting, all the fields are ordinary and uninspiring. Rangiora fields today are boring and I won't be betting. Is the big problem really for NZ, not enough races to have a lot of Open Class races. When they do come up , even on the provincial circuits /courses they are from a STAND. so horses can be handicapped. Standing starts are to be honest , a POOR betting medium. NZ cup even getting risky. The handicapping system in Oz regions caters for all the local horses to be able to get a Race start Every Week. This is Excellent for the horse owners, (so horses pay their way), but the fields End Up Being ordinary and uninspiring anyway (no stand -outs so hard to pick as all graded to be similar) . and then become a Poor betting medium unfortunately. The short course racing also really caters for 'Good Barrier Draw s' too, so it is almost silly backing number 5 and wider on the mobile barrier arm, as chances Way slimmer , right from the get-go. The bigger fields in NZ harness racing, do mean bigger divi's on the tote, but it's harder to pick the winner too. (weight of numbers against you) and another Good Thing is like that WInton 'mile and a half ' racing yesterday, it gives them a chance from the back of field too.! That was quite good racing as All runners are a Chance..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
With A Dream Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Davis said: The handicap system is not working. There are few races for top class mares or those horses who are cup class or near to it but cannot foot it with the big guns, the likes of Star Galleria and Vintage Cheddar. I don't understand the grading system. In Canterbury the same horses seem to race at every meeting, all the fields are ordinary and uninspiring. Rangiora fields today are boring and I won't be betting. Agree about the mares races, that needs to be addressed. We need to look at some way of allowing horses that meet their mark to be allowed to stay in a grade where they are competitive. That may lead to more horses being retained here thus making it easier to card competitive fields. Hopefully with a premier meeting at Addington this Friday fields will improve for a bit more excitement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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