Chief Stipe Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Got shuffled back along the rails to last at the 600m - didn't panic, thread the needle through the middle of the pack and stormed home! Well driven Ben Hope behind Homebush Lad. Come in Forbury! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 nothing like hopeless this benjamin bloke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 On 28/03/2021 at 1:57 AM, Rangatira said: nothing like hopeless this benjamin bloke Expand Ben must be taking notice of Forb's highly analytical critiques. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have a go Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 On 28/03/2021 at 1:50 AM, Chief Stipe said: Got shuffled back along the rails to last at the 600m - didn't panic, thread the needle through the middle of the pack and stormed home! Well driven Ben Hope behind Homebush Lad. Come in Forbury! Expand You cannot call that a good drive where Ben's skill won the race.it was a total fluke and he got lucky hes mummy and daddy had Homebush Lad 100% to produce a stunning last 600 metres for once. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 On 28/03/2021 at 2:54 AM, Have a go said: You cannot call that a good drive where Ben's skill won the race.it was a total fluke and he got lucky hes mummy and daddy had Homebush Lad 100% to produce a stunning last 600 metres for once. Expand Did you back the wrong horse again Forbury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have a go Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) On 28/03/2021 at 2:58 AM, Chief Stipe said: Did you back the wrong horse again Forbury? Expand No I got the boxed quinella 40/1 nice collect.ben hope is a dangerous driver ......the worst in South island proven fact.there is a bit of hope for young Ben as you learn from your mistakes some people do any way.tim Williams did now he's competing to be the best in South island Edited March 28, 2021 by Have a go Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 On 28/03/2021 at 3:01 AM, Have a go said: ben hope is a dangerous driver ......the worst in South island proven fact. Expand What facts? What proof? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 On 28/03/2021 at 3:01 AM, Have a go said: No I got the boxed quinella 40/1 nice collect.ben hope is a dangerous driver ......the worst in South island proven fact.there is a bit of hope for young Ben as you learn from your mistakes some people do any way.tim Williams did now he's competing to be the best in South island Expand I'm sure got the quinella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have a go Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 On 28/03/2021 at 3:06 AM, Richie said: I'm sure got the quinella Expand And I only had a couple hundie on ildeal invasion 31/1 so whatever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) I think this topic a bit stupid. I've backed homebush Lad about its last 7 or 8 starts.Did so again today because its got relief in the handicap due to its rating dropping, because it seems to be forever getting the wrong run. You've picked the wrong horse to highlight if you go back through its recent races. Well done to ben hope today,he had luck go his way,but you can't be serious to call it a brilliant drive where he ends up 6 back the fence and only gets a run because the others got tired because of the pace of the race. Edited March 28, 2021 by the galah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) On 28/03/2021 at 9:55 AM, the galah said: I think this topic a bit stupid. I've backed homebush Lad about its last 7 or 8 starts.Did so again today because its got relief in the handicap due to its rating dropping, because it seems to be forever getting the wrong run. You've picked the wrong horse to highlight if you go back through its recent races. Well done to ben hope today,he had luck go his way,but you can't be serious to call it a brilliant drive where he ends up 6 back the fence and only gets a run because the others got tired because of the pace of the race. Expand I should say i recognise that the horse is a sit/sprinter and thats why he drives it for luck all the time. Ben hope driving doesn't put me off backing a horse,but i do think he drives trotters better,and is a bit too one dimensional with his tactics when driving the pacers. Thats just my opinion. Edited March 28, 2021 by the galah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 On 28/03/2021 at 9:55 AM, the galah said: I think this topic a bit stupid. Expand Less stupid than Forbury's attacks? On 28/03/2021 at 10:02 AM, the galah said: I've backed homebush Lad about its last 7 or 8 starts.Did so again today because its got relief in the handicap due to its rating dropping, Expand So you just broke even today? Or still behind if you are an each way punter? On 28/03/2021 at 9:55 AM, the galah said: Well done to ben hope today,he had luck go his way,but you can't be serious to call it a brilliant drive where he ends up 6 back the fence and only gets a run because the others got tired because of the pace of the race. Expand What was he supposed to do? Try and hold the lead off 4 challengers? When shuffled back to last make a big run round the outside from the 800m? Go wide in the straight or choose the short cut path up the middle? So many things young Hope could have done wrong yet the so called "useless driver" didn't make one mistake? A bit of luck for sure but the majority of lower grade winners need that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) On 28/03/2021 at 7:06 PM, Chief Stipe said: Less stupid than Forbury's attacks? So you just broke even today? Or still behind if you are an each way punter? What was he supposed to do? Try and hold the lead off 4 challengers? When shuffled back to last make a big run round the outside from the 800m? Go wide in the straight or choose the short cut path up the middle? So many things young Hope could have done wrong yet the so called "useless driver" didn't make one mistake? A bit of luck for sure but the majority of lower grade winners need that. Expand Fair enough. He can be rather one dimensional when driving pacers though. He drives for luck over the last 600m on 90 % of the Hope trained pacers. Thats why he can be a frustrating driver for punters sometimes. And to me he drives the pacers too much stop/start,whereas he rates the trotters at a more consistent speed,like the good drivers do. No ones perfect,but punters just want the driver of the horse they have their money on, to drive them like blair orange or john dunn would everytime. Edited March 28, 2021 by the galah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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