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So what's wrong with NZ Harness Racing, what would you do to fix it?


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3 minutes ago, Jones said:

Yes Gamms would love another Jonny Longshot tip if he is tuning in. 

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Could be up shitt creek too lol.  with hot tips. my wife adores that show, (Schitts Creek) says it's the best on television.!!

If you like beautiful grey gallopers , and is kiwi -bred, and we have a bit of rain like NZ that she loves , and Chris Waller training, and a very weak field compared to what she is usually against , and the on-fire Tommy Berry riding,  we have it all for you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

  POLLY GREY in at Eagle Farm R4 Tatt's crown tomorrow , who fits the bill nicely . looks a special. who needs Johnny ????

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22 hours ago, Gammalite said:

Well another way to fix it would be for the Brodster to come up with a good tip for tonight !!!  lol ...Sugar Me?

paleface adios has done his bit and come up with SHOCKWAVE (potential superstar in Perth tonight) , although as a Geelong Cats supporter is licking deep wounds today lol...., inflicted by the Mighty Brisbane Lions last night ! tough Luck paleface !lol....... made to look like pussies lol.

Redcliffe Derby and Cup on here tomorrow . Superstars KRUG (should win the Derby by a minute), and COLT THIRTY ONE the group2 Redcliffe Cup , to go past $1,000,000 in prizemoney won, and become the 2nd best ever QLDer to Black's a Fake.!! what an honour . 

Today Bob Butt from NZ,  is having a drive at Albion on a trotter !!!!  wow ! let's back him in ?? love a good kiwi driver R9 IMA CALVERT ROSE .from the high performing Butler stable.

so it's SHOCKWAVE - KRUG - COLT THIRTY ONE - IMA CALVERT ROSE  quad at 30-1 !!!  $2 gets a carton !!

Com'on Bob !!! do ya bit and win with the trotter and join the 3 superstars !! I can taste the beer already hehehehe

shock wave yes yes is he a champion gammalite ?

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20 minutes ago, paleface adios said:

shock wave yes yes is he a champion gammalite ?

I'm gunna go YES!!. he did that so well and easy past 2 weeks. he is big and strong. SHOCK WAVE is a beauty.

The 2nd placegetter last night, yet another big Loss for NZ years ago.  MIGHTY CONQUEROR won 2 out of 3 Invercargill 3 years ago.

Now has WON 17 out of 37 in Perth and $1/2 mill +, for the Bonds. could of been a FFAer in NZ. 

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28 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

I'm gunna go YES!!. he did that so well and easy past 2 weeks. he is big and strong. SHOCK WAVE is a beauty.

The 2nd placegetter last night, yet another big Loss for NZ years ago.  MIGHTY CONQUEROR won 2 out of 3 Invercargill 3 years ago.

Now has WON 17 out of 37 in Perth and $1/2 mill +, for the Bonds. could of been a FFAer in NZ. 

Who trained Mighty Conqueror in NZ?

There are a lot of horses Gamma as you know that go to Oz and improve heaps!

Think it is just the type of racing you have over there and overall the Ozzie horses are nowhere near as good as Kiwi horses!

Perth is a good place to sell horses to as I believe they pay better prices for Kiwi horses and they tend to be so competitive even though they race on saucer tracks!

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Brodie said:

There are a lot of horses Gamma as you know that go to Oz and improve heaps!

Think it is just the type of racing you have over there and overall the Ozzie horses are nowhere near as good as Kiwi horses!

Perth is a good place to sell horses to as I believe they pay better prices for Kiwi horses and they tend to be so competitive even though they race on saucer tracks!

I think to answer the question Chief posted for this thread. is KEEP some of the good HORSES to race in NZ.

I don't think horses necessarily improve here in Aus, the kiwis are fantastic horsepeople and get them going nicely FIRST.

as with Mighty Conqueror, and way back with Village Kid even. Brian Notman ,his Akld owner /trainer had him going well (4 wins) and sold for 40k to WA which we congratulated him for at the time. Lightning Blue (Addington Interdominion and NZ Cup winner) had one start for Mike Berger at Cambridge for a WIN and sold straight away for 40k. Mike deserves heaps of credit.!!!!

and endless examples of that sort of thing continue, over the years. 

Perth trotting has heaps of 'Rich' owners so no wonder they always picking up great kiwis. Perth the only 'saucer track ' these days Brodie. still Mark won Interdom's with Smolda and Lazarus recently anyway . !!!  what a champion.

And yes the Z for zorro on the freezebrand (they're doing away with freeze branding soon sadly) always marked a great horse. NZ er.

some Aussies were ok though. Gammalite, Popular Alm , Pure Steel, Maori's Idol and Scotch Notch trotting spring to mind. lol...... 

I had 90% success with kiwis. Frederick was a lovely horse. Can't improve him on Sandy Purdon , but we got him cheap as he was always chasing around Luxury Liner , Master mood (NZ cup winners) Ben, Our Mana, Placid Victor (stablemate who won the Derbies) so his form didn't look great, but he was.  so Lucks a fortune !! 

NZ harness racing would be all the bettor for hanging on to a few of the high performers. that would improve things slightly.

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17 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

 

I had 90% success with kiwis. Frederick was a lovely horse. Can't improve him on Sandy Purdon , but we got him cheap as he was always chasing around Luxury Liner , Master mood (NZ cup winners) Ben, Our Mana, Placid Victor (stablemate who won the Derbies) so his form didn't look great, but he was.  so Lucks a fortune !! 

 

Yes,remember Frederick being in quality company during my days at The Park 1980's.

See his last win in NZ,he actually beat the mighty Luxury Liner with Tommy Knowles driving,

An astute purchase,especially as cheap.🤑

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1 hour ago, Taupiri Wonder said:

Yes,remember Frederick being in quality company during my days at The Park 1980's

Unfortunately Frederick near finished Sandy's career. trod on a loose shoe while leading a trial with Sandy driving at Cambridge one Sunday, and crashed, and smashed Sandy's leg which wouldn't mend well. sad turn of events.

Graeme Harris was a good trainer there in the Cambridge area around that time as well. We picked up Supreme Ruler who won a few as a three year old in NZ, not much after for Harris, but he was a little shit really..lol. try and bite you all the time, just so sour. we picked him up cheap to belt around with in Qld for a while. He actually got in the NZ CUP one year ?? how I don't know. but got brought down in the big crash that took out 6 of them behind winner CAMELOT. 

Harris still in QLD with horses . he has a handy horse GLENEAGLE WARRIOR he still paddles around with. Gives it to Vicki Rasmussen when he wants some wins lol.... at his age harder to win these days. lol..........

2 wins from 24 starts with Graeme training and driving.

7 wins from 16 starts when he gives it to Vicki to train for her drivers from time to time. distinct difference !!

 

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8 hours ago, Brodie said:

There are a lot of horses Gamma as you know that go to Oz and improve heaps!

Think it is just the type of racing you have over there and overall the Ozzie horses are nowhere near as good as Kiwi horses!

Good NZ clean-up tonight Brodster. ! Spellbound and Mighty Flying Art in Syd. and Krug (Redcliffe Derby ) and LL COOL J (Redcliffe Cup) in Brisbane . 

LL COOL J won 3 of his last 4 starts in NZ last year for Suzanne and Tony Herlihy , so must be pretty expensive sale to Oz. so is another good example of What you say The kiwis horses are Tops !! lol.. not improved heaps though as already going well. Good to see the aussies aren't stuffing up the good 'ground -work' put in by the kiwi horsepeople !!! lol.....

they keep em going super, and beaut racing ,both countries with fine horses . bring on the Interdom ! 

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11 hours ago, Gammalite said:

Good NZ clean-up tonight Brodster. ! Spellbound and Mighty Flying Art in Syd. and Krug (Redcliffe Derby ) and LL COOL J (Redcliffe Cup) in Brisbane . 

LL COOL J won 3 of his last 4 starts in NZ last year for Suzanne and Tony Herlihy , so must be pretty expensive sale to Oz. so is another good example of What you say The kiwis horses are Tops !! lol.. not improved heaps though as already going well. Good to see the aussies aren't stuffing up the good 'ground -work' put in by the kiwi horsepeople !!! lol.....

they keep em going super, and beaut racing ,both countries with fine horses . bring on the Interdom ! 

The thing is NZ horses are better on average than Oz horses.

Think we breed from better Stallions as many Ozzies breed from lower class stallions for some strange reason.
A Kiwi Horse lines up in Oz first start and tends to bolt in.

Your handicapping system and amount of races make it far easier to place a horse.

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On 24/06/2021 at 6:54 PM, Brodie said:

Until domination of major races by the one stable disappears there is going to be big problems attracting new owners!

That won't change until others get their crap together.  You can't ban excellence or regulate against it in harness racing.  Although I guess someone like Ardern could try.

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1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

That won't change until others get their crap together.  You can't ban excellence or regulate against it in harness racing.  Although I guess someone like Ardern could try.

Agree to a point Chief!

The others as you say, need to get their crap together!

There is more to it and many know that!

Personal opinion only but do not believe that Purdon/Rasmussen will be training as a partnership  in Rolly in 2 years, and that has to be a plus for harness racing!

 

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  • 9 months later...

I would listen to legends like tim tetrick and have the best drivers driving the horses instead of track work drivers at best.these girls and boys who could not drive terror to love in a NZ cup are taking drives from the best drivers who struggle to get drives eg John Morrison Matty Williamson. Etc how a owner would want someone like Shree Kerryn  tominson Elle Barron Ben hope mark Hurrell cannot drive a Trotter is beyond me.maybe they want to lose to cheat rating system.all these drivers proved how bad they are over past few days.lol

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