Brodie Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Celestial Arden left these shores for Australia not too long ago. Started Racing I believe over in Oz at Menangle and has won quite a few races and last night was just beaten into second in the Sunshine Sprint in Brisbane. Celestial Arden was a pretty useful horse trained by Grant Payne when he was in Canterbury. He won a few races and was pretty consistent but it just shows you how good horses can improve and become extremely good horses when they race over one mile. I don’t have to reinstate that I hate Mile Racing and the less we have in NZ the better, but there must be a helluva lot of horses racing in NZ that are not that competitive here, that could become an extremely good horse in Oz if it was racing over the mile or shorter distances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 13 hours ago, Brodie said: Celestial Arden left these shores for Australia not too long ago. Started Racing I believe over in Oz at Menangle and has won quite a few races and last night was just beaten into second in the Sunshine Sprint in Brisbane. Celestial Arden was a pretty useful horse trained by Grant Payne when he was in Canterbury. He won a few races and was pretty consistent but it just shows you how good horses can improve and become extremely good horses when they race over one mile. I don’t have to reinstate that I hate Mile Racing and the less we have in NZ the better, but there must be a helluva lot of horses racing in NZ that are not that competitive here, that could become an extremely good horse in Oz if it was racing over the mile or shorter distances. Yes its amazing how average horses seem improve with mile racing whether at menangle or the good ole u.s of a....and people go nuts when the horses run a time of 1.50 etc, but that's how the tracks are manicured for speed and can make average horses seem better...Waikiki beach is a good example, excelled on the menangle track and won 15+ races in a row, then came back to nz and was soon found out.......I agree with you Brodie, I enjoy a mile race if its once a year like the miracle mile or the old pan am mile, but not all the time, becomes a bore fest!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 19 hours ago, Brodie said: Celestial Arden was a pretty useful horse trained by Grant Payne when he was in Canterbury. He won a few races and was pretty consistent but it just shows you how good horses can improve and become extremely good horses when they race over one mile. No world beater but always showed ability. Punters cleaned up on him massively at Ashburton in a lower grade race once. Opened at 11s FF and paid something like 4.50 tote. Still vivid. Oh, the good old days lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Happy Sunrise said: No world beater but always showed ability. Punters cleaned up on him massively at Ashburton in a lower grade race once. Opened at 11s FF and paid something like 4.50 tote. Still vivid. Oh, the good old days lol happy did grant payne train that horse??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: No world beater but always showed ability. Punters cleaned up on him massively at Ashburton in a lower grade race once. Opened at 11s FF and paid something like 4.50 tote. Still vivid. Oh, the good old days lol Yes think you are right Happy. Was he driven by Dexter or Blair that day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 17 minutes ago, Brodie said: Was he driven by Dexter or Blair that day? Blair. For obvious reasons, I remember it vividly. I told the 'world' too so all my friends and family thought I was the bees knees lol. Don't do that very often but the 11s was breathtaking. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 20 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: happy did grant payne train that horse??? Yip. He was a tidy horse from the get go. Ran in some very hard fields then dropped back to Vegas in the middle of Cup Week. Stuff of dreams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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