Holey Pastas rant on Neoliberalism!

[holy ravioli]

3 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Communism is bad.

Which Arden policy do you want to debate?  Mycoplasma bovis eradication?  You seem to have a fixation with cattle.

'Communism is bad'=sums up  your depth of knowledge and debating prowess.

 

'or that a policy of Ardens Government was a manifestation of Communisn or not.'=you choose...demonstrate your...intelligence.Lol.

[Chief Stipe]

 

6 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

'Communism is bad'

It is a moot.  I assume you agree.

Still waiting for a successful Ardern Government policy.

[holy ravioli]

1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said:

 

It is a moot.  I assume you agree.

Still waiting for a successful Ardern Government policy.

You don't seem to be able to make up your mind.

You assume far too much...that is evident from the calibre of your posts.

The title you gave this thread screams bias and your replies confirm it.

[Chief Stipe]

7 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

You don't seem to be able to make up your mind.

You assume far too much...that is evident from the calibre of your posts.

The title you gave this thread screams bias and your replies confirm it.

Absolutely I'm biased against dickheads who spew total garbage like your first post.  I dont suffer fools.

Guilty as charged.

[holy ravioli]

1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said:

Absolutely I'm biased against dickheads who spew total garbage like your first post.  I dont suffer fools.

Guilty as charged.

 

[holy ravioli]

1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said:

Absolutely I'm biased against dickheads who spew total garbage like your first post.  I dont suffer fools.

Guilty as charged.

O.K...you are judge and jury and can dictate as its your site.Message understood but even those realities cannot hide your lack of informed,impartial analysis.

What about Rugby...do you know anything about that!!

[Chief Stipe]

Just now, holy ravioli said:

but even those realities cannot hide your lack of informed,impartial analysis.

Surely you can't be inferring that you are informed and post impartial analysis?  Note the evidence clearly shows otherwise.

[holy ravioli]

Just now, Chief Stipe said:

Surely you can't be inferring that you are informed and post impartial analysis?  Note the evidence clearly shows otherwise.

In your world...this is your world...in the real world people can have different opinions and often debate their merits without ad hominum attacks.

'Absolutely I'm biased against dickheads who spew total garbage like your first post.  I dont suffer fools.'

How do you live with...youself?

[Gospel of Judas]

On 23/10/2021 at 12:34 PM, holy ravioli said:

NZ becoming a 'tax haven'...money laundering centre was introduced by Jonkey Tonks National Govt.

It benefitted his former lawyer and a handful of others in that space.

To hell with NZ's international reputation.

The Key Govt did what right wing Govts do....rob the poor to give to the rich.

Privatise the common assets,defund public owned entities,demonise the lowest class on the modern feudal ladder and maintain gravy train old boy relationships.

Even funnier the laws were tightened in 2017 under John Keys Government. https://thespinoff.co.nz/business/06-10-2021/is-nz-a-tax-haven-for-the-rich-and-dodgy-the-pandora-papers-reignite-the-debate/

[Gospel of Judas]

On 23/10/2021 at 12:42 PM, holy ravioli said:

God,you must have a great supply of Kool Aid!

My proof is in the body of my earlier post that you scorned.i.e the reality of international financial structure.

Q.E meant there was a huge injection of funds chasing the most reliable store of value=Property.

Exacerbated by the obsession with GDP and 'growth'...immigration numbers were ramped up and the effect of near zero interest rates to avoid complete collapse did the rest.Property inflation is not productive and when a vacant house earns more in a week than some poor bastard trying to house and feed his family you know something is rotten in the state of NZ.

The young generation have been locked out of home ownership=a stake in society.

Around 200,000 empty homes in NZ.40,000 in Auck alone.

23,000 people living in motels.

All done in the best ..possible taste.

What has caused this we mess? perhaps all those 100 of billions Ardern and Robinson been printing. https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300223358/reserve-bank-repeatedly-warned-government-money-printing-would-lead-to-house-price-inflation

[holy ravioli]

2 minutes ago, Gospel of Judas said:

What has caused this we mess? perhaps all those 100 of billions Ardern and Robinson been printing. https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300223358/reserve-bank-repeatedly-warned-government-money-printing-would-lead-to-house-price-inflation

They certainly fuel it,(since 2020)but interest rates and LV's are the vital component.

It really started around 2007ish and really exploded with high immigration,lack of alternative investments  and foreign buy ups from then on.

National said there was no crisis and Labour tinker around the edges.

Too many voters with a vested interest and influence for any real action plan.

[Freda]

Hmm.

All this has made my morning cuppa a bit more interesting.   I fed the horses an hour ago, and am now about to go and start mucking out.   Which is completely irrelevant to this diatribe, of course.

I have little to add of substance, other than some observations from folk in the know, so to speak.

Mycoplasma ?  the approach of MPI, the frustration felt by good farmers as they watched the 'source' of the infection seemingly able to carry on, unchecked;  the real pain felt by people who had to watch, helpless, as their lovely cows and calves, and pregnant heifers get taken away for slaughter, some herds built up for generations;  good practice?  I don't think so.  A bloody shambles, overseen by penpushers who had never seen a cow, was the way it was described by one farmer friend to me.

The health system?  yes, neglected, but not just by John Key et al,  but by ministries earlier than his as well.  We trundled along in our relatively isolated utopia, seemingly oblivious to the fact that increasing travel/population would, eventually, lead to real problems.  Chickens have certainly come home to roost, about the only thing that can't be directly attributed to this current incompetent lot at the helm.    We had the prior overseas experience of Sars- covid to learn from, by example - but chose to ignore it.

Friends in real estate are also adamant that there is not really a housing shortage, but rather a money shortage - coupled with distribution.  There are many houses available in areas where people don't choose to live.   Four acquaintances of mine have, together, bought a house.  Each of them, now, in a relatively short time, will be able to use their equity to leverage into a home of their own.   It is do-able, with a bit of will, and thinking outside the square.

As for financial chicanery ;  a strongly-religious farmer friend told me, back in the 80's, that nothing good would come from the 'modern' practice of shuffling derivates, futures, etc, of which he, good man that he was, had little understanding. Neither did I, but he was adamant that if money could not be made by selling goods or services provided by  'turning a sweat'  as he put it, it would all come tumbling down.

And it did.

[holy ravioli]

1 hour ago, Freda said:

Hmm.

All this has made my morning cuppa a bit more interesting.   I fed the horses an hour ago, and am now about to go and start mucking out.   Which is completely irrelevant to this diatribe, of course.

I have little to add of substance, other than some observations from folk in the know, so to speak.

Mycoplasma ?  the approach of MPI, the frustration felt by good farmers as they watched the 'source' of the infection seemingly able to carry on, unchecked;  the real pain felt by people who had to watch, helpless, as their lovely cows and calves, and pregnant heifers get taken away for slaughter, some herds built up for generations;  good practice?  I don't think so.  A bloody shambles, overseen by penpushers who had never seen a cow, was the way it was described by one farmer friend to me.

The health system?  yes, neglected, but not just by John Key et al,  but by ministries earlier than his as well.  We trundled along in our relatively isolated utopia, seemingly oblivious to the fact that increasing travel/population would, eventually, lead to real problems.  Chickens have certainly come home to roost, about the only thing that can't be directly attributed to this current incompetent lot at the helm.    We had the prior overseas experience of Sars- covid to learn from, by example - but chose to ignore it.

Friends in real estate are also adamant that there is not really a housing shortage, but rather a money shortage - coupled with distribution.  There are many houses available in areas where people don't choose to live.   Four acquaintances of mine have, together, bought a house.  Each of them, now, in a relatively short time, will be able to use their equity to leverage into a home of their own.   It is do-able, with a bit of will, and thinking outside the square.

As for financial chicanery ;  a strongly-religious farmer friend told me, back in the 80's, that nothing good would come from the 'modern' practice of shuffling derivates, futures, etc, of which he, good man that he was, had little understanding. Neither did I, but he was adamant that if money could not be made by selling goods or services provided by  'turning a sweat'  as he put it, it would all come tumbling down.

And it did.

-be surprised if the Govt imposed the MBovis strategy without farmers input.

-Health funding was restricted by the Key Govt as they  were obsessed with producing a surplus to highlight their supposed economic management skill.

- people working in RE have a vested interest and always promote those ludicrous ideas..as well as younger gen spend too much on coffees.

- people choose not to live in isolated areas...they need work to pay the mortgage!

-how can there not be a housing shortage when the NZ population has increased by more than 1 million in the last 16-17 years!

-there is NO shortage of money...I showed how banks create it,and if there was,prices would not have exploded.Dialling interest rates up or down is the big factor.

-there is a well known,rather unkind saying-'if you can't get a real job...why not try Real Estate.....you will find they are, to be mild...a very diverse bunch.

-your farmer friend was dead right,and future generations will pay a ruinous price for rampant greed and excess.

-as for Covid- NZ's approach has been lauded around the world.It's certainly far from perfect but it requires bi-partisan co-operation, not points scoring from an opposition seemingly bereft of any cohesion.

-the so called 'free market' does not exist=merely a political construct to validate this chicanery.

-funnily enough the worst examples of Socialism according to one poster are attributed to a National Govt in the 60's.

We are all Socialists now...everyone has their hand out for gummint...money.

-