Joe Bloggs Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 goldrushpublications.com would have to be the bravest racing site on the planet. I've been following them for some time however it's really getting heated. I urge all of you that wonder how some trainers seem to have the edge on others keep on keeping on. I've looked up to the fabulous Jim Bolger for years, a wonderful trainer and excellent human being and if Ireland harbours such a black secret why not here, and NZ.........especially applicable to our friends at the 'red hots' as NZ was the home of the wonderful Blue Magic. Archie Butterfly was scathing in his criticism of MP this morning and the blue stars recent success's, however, as alarming as that is its what's NOT happening that concerns me. We need good independent journalism to deliver transparency which in turn delivers confidence in our industry, and NZ and Oz lag well off the pace re industry policing. The recent debacle in VIC with their integrity in question, well that's not only recent, their behaviour regarding the very decent licensed trainer Kate Goodrich goes back to when that fellow Bernard Saundry was meant to be in charge and the revelations that hit mainstream media when the courts reached their decision in favour of the much maligned Kate Goodrich. In more recent times we have the farce that is Queensland and it's QCAT, over the border in NSW it only improves a milli micro as the racing police there at least seem to be a little more proficient. The rumour mill here re drugs is starting to grind out again and at least Archie on peterprofit.com seems to be on to it. There are results in the trotting caper that are beyond reasoning, and you only have to look back to the Gleeson debacle and his banning from the sport along with the corrupt steward/officials to know that anything is possible, if not probable. I can't see anything positive happening in the short term regarding the happenings in Ireland, too big, too strong, too many agendas, I lived in QLD during the Joh Bjelke era, the Russ Hinze dynasty, and it stunk, no wonder poor old Hayden Haitana did. what he did, he actually thought it just might happen, but we move on some 40 years and has our sport cleaned up it's act. New Zealand does not posses the same gambling culture that we have here, it will eventually wane somewhat as the new generations do seem to have the 'Risk Averse' syndrome and that's not a bad thing, the hypocrisy of that is the poker machine, a tool invented to take money off the stupid and easily led in a frightening quick period. The Catholic priests used to say, ''God loves a gambler'' never once did I hear them say ''but you need an edge'', I'm guessing God presumed we would all have a level playing field, our friends the Irish being mainly God fearing citizens now appear to have amongst them a rather large band of industry titans indeed looking for that elusive edge and if that edge is in the shape of performance enhancing drugs then the full force of the law should be brought against them, and lets not stop with Ireland, the only way to install some sort of confidence here with the gambling public is to ensure pre race testing and all post race testing samples are sent off to the labs and transparency ensues. End Of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 @Joe Bloggs can you write succinctly in one sentence what your point is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 No evidence that doping rules in Irish horse racing are lower than standards in other countries The report, by the Oireachtas Agriculture Committee, was prompted by allegations from trainer Jim Bolger that drugs are Irish racing’s number one problem /cms_media/module_img/5466/2733342_1_articlesmall_PA-7858587_1_.jpg File photo: PA TUE, 09 NOV, 2021 - 20:46 JAMES WARD A report into horse racing in Ireland has found no evidence that doping regulations fall below international standards. The report, by the Oireachtas Agriculture Committee, was prompted by allegations from trainer Jim Bolger that drugs are Irish racing’s number one problem. It makes 11 recommendations, including that all favourites and those who finish in the top five of any race be mandatorily tested - using hair samples. At no stage was there any evidence found that the testing regulations in Ireland were anything but the highest possible international standards. It also calls for a review of the composition of the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board, to address concerns over a lack of independent membership and gender balance. The report, drafted by officials on behalf of Agriculture Committee chair Jackie Cahill, calls on the IHRB to follow governance structures similar to those in the United States. Cahill said: “We’re happy that the testing standards in Irish racing are of the highest possible international standards. “There was a lot of comments in the media and to restore public confidence, we felt that transparency was very important. That is coming out clearly in this report. The IHRB, there’s no question that they’re doing the testing to the highest possible standards. “But to meet the modern criteria that’s there, I think greater transparency was needed. “That’s where a lot of our recommendations are coming from. At no stage was there any evidence found that the testing regulations in Ireland were anything but the highest possible international standards” he added. Bolger, who first raised concerns about doping in the sport, did not appear before the Committee to give evidence during the research of the report. Cahill said the recommendations in the report will give “100% confidence” to the public that the highest standards of doping testing are employed in Ireland. Along with mandatory hair sampling of all favourites and top five finishers after each race, it also calls for facilities to allow for random testing to take place. An independent review of the industry by an outside body, including a full audit of all tests previously carried out, is also recommended to “ensure that Ireland’s drug testing procedures match international best practices”, along with the installation of CCTV at all Irish racecourses and a system of equine traceability. “For the public out there, whether it’s for the betting public or the general public, to ensure that that this kind of comprehensive testing will ensure that that everyone is fully convinced that there can be no wrongdoing involved in horse racing in Ireland,” Cahill said at the report’s launch. He added: “I think this recommendation would be a comprehensive testing post-race, will give the public in general 100% confidence that the highest standards are being employed and that there is a very comprehensive testing regime in place.” The report also calls for greater transparency on the wage structure at IHRB. Board members had declined requests to reveal their salaries at committee hearings investigating the claims made by Bolger. Cahill said it was appropriate the salaries are made public, given that the IHRB is a publicly funded body. He said the allegations about Irish racing had damaged the sport, and called on Agriculture Minister Charlie McConalogue to implement the recommendations as soon as possible. He said: “The comments that appeared in the media did do reputational damage to the sport. There’s no point in me denying that and that was the basis of why we initiated this report. “I think these changes to bring transparency to the IHRB would do an awful lot in restoring that public confidence.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The report, by the Oireachtas Agriculture Committee, was prompted by allegations from trainer Jim Bolger that drugs are Irish racing’s number one problem
Chief Stipe Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Raid on Irish horse racing yard leads to seizure of banned animal remedies The raid took place on the same day as the report of the Oireachtas Agriculture Committee into the IRHB’s anti-doping regulations was released, in which it was determined that the regulations did not fall below international standards /cms_media/module_img/5468/2734224_6_articlesmall_PA-7032050_1_.jpg File photo WED, 10 NOV, 2021 - 15:07 DARAGH Ó CONCHÚIR Irish racing is facing up to the possibility of a major scandal after a raid on a farm on Tuesday led to the seizure of animal remedies that are banned for use in racehorses. The raid, led by Department of Agriculture, Food, and the Marine officials acting on their own investigations and information received, and with support from Gardaí as well as Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board-authorised officers including head of anti-doping, Lynn Hillyer, took place at a premises in Co Kildare. A number of individuals were spoken to, among them a British resident, whose vehicle and phone were impounded as well as the banned substances. Racehorses in training with different trainers were at the premises. “On Tuesday, 9th November, 2021, authorised officers acting on behalf of the Department of Agriculture, Food, and the Marine carried out an enforcement operation supported by Gardaí attached to the Kildare-Laois drug unit and officers from the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board,” said a DAFM spokesperson today. “This Department-led operation involved searches and seizure of products as part of an ongoing investigation into equine doping. As this is an ongoing investigation, it would not be appropriate to make any further comment at this time.” “An operation was led by DAFM and the Gardaí with IHRB officers in attendance, which led to a seizure of animal remedies,” an IHRB spokesman confirmed today. “This is an active Department of Agriculture, Food, and the Marine investigation so we will be making no further comment at this time.” The raid took place on the same day as the report of the Oireachtas Agriculture Committee into the IRHB’s anti-doping regulations was released, in which it was determined that the regulations did not fall below international standards. The report did recommend that all favourites and the first five finishers in all races undergo mandatory testing using hair samples. The committee met originally on the back of allegations by respected trainer/breeder Jim Bolger that there was a considerable doping issue in Irish racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: @Joe Bloggs can you write succinctly in one sentence what your point since? Yes Chief, if you correct your grammar...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said: Yes Chief, if you correct your grammar...... Done. Bloody predictive texting..... The floors yours or are you going to some more grammar checking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 JB, Thanks, thats an interesting website you have drawn attention to. I go back to the sixties where I first experienced my intro into the effects of "THE INJECTION" Racing trainers seem to think that just because they are injecting a legit substance they are OK. But that injection can dramatically reverse a horses form. Trainers in the sixties had it down to a fine art. Then racing was based around a the first leg and second leg of the double. A recognised mid distance performer would have a couple of sprints, say one or two down the track mid dist runs then when the the trainer thought the horse was peaking BANG!!! in goes the injection.... bare in mind by this time the horse had a series of zero's in its form line. RESULT a big clean up by the stable. Whats happened now is those substances are detected but still trainers are pushing the boundries. Some would laugh at this but when I go racing I can pick out the horse with the injection by its demeanour and appearance. The trouble is Saturday racing there are too many in the field filling that criteria. I put it this way most form reversals are accompanied by an injection. Looking at videos of English racing I can't get over the massive improvement 2 year olds from some of the major stables make from 1st to 2nd start. Looking at videos of their first start there is just no clue that they could improve. There has to be a reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 9 hours ago, The Centaur said: THE INJECTION What is it? You say it is legitimate so no harm in posting what it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 7 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: What is it? You say it is legitimate so no harm in posting what it is. What? Do you want me to post an encyclopedia of all the substances. As an example look at the number of trainers rubbed out in Australia once they changed the levels for cobalt. Previously it would have been legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 minute ago, The Centaur said: What? Do you want me to post an encyclopedia of all the substances. As an example look at the number of trainers rubbed out in Australia once they changed the levels for cobalt. Previously it would have been legal. You appear to be confusing a number of issues. The Cobalt episode was a debacle and is still playing out. The Feds got it all screwed up - still have. The term False Positives come to mind and Vitamin B1 complexes. So "THE INJECTION" is nothing you can put your finger on. Is the active ingredient "Myth"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Surely trainers in NZ wouldn't partake in such shenanigans based purely on our prizemoney levels .... 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: You appear to be confusing a number of issues. The Cobalt episode was a debacle and is still playing out. The Feds got it all screwed up - still have. The term False Positives come to mind and Vitamin B1 complexes. So "THE INJECTION" is nothing you can put your finger on. Is the active ingredient "Myth"? You seem confused. A complex usually means a range of vitamins. B1 isn't the vitamin associated with cobalt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Huey said: Surely trainers in NZ wouldn't partake in such shenanigans based purely on our prizemoney levels .... 🤣 You miss the point. Trainers want to have a healthy horse. When a low blood count is detected injections are the remedy. Next start BINGO a form reversal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Harness Graham not guilty after six-year cobalt battle Harness trainer and driver Darrel Graham has beaten his cobalt charge. Picture: Patrick Woods — Gympie Times By Trenton Akers03:11pm • 14 November 2021 Comments Top harness trainer Darrel Graham’s six-year battle with the Queensland Racing Integrity Commission (QRIC) is finally over after the Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal (QCAT) found him not guilty of a cobalt charge. The popular trainer was originally charged after his horse Mafuta Vautin returned an elevated cobalt reading in May 2015 after winning a race. In what was Queensland racing’s longest-running saga however, Graham finally beat the charges last week in a draining legal battle both mentally and financially – costing his family almost $500,000 on top of the reputational damages caused. “It has been six-and-a-half years so it has been a fair while but at least we got the result which we knew was right,” Graham said. Graham was originally disqualified by QRIC stewards for 15 months over the cobalt reading. A drawn-out series of hearings and negotiations on the penalty were heard before QCAT eventually handed down its verdict on July 30 2019, changing the 15-month disqualification to a 12-month suspension, which started on August 15, 2019. “It took a fair while and it is probably a hollow victory to be honest because I have already done my suspension which is for nothing, I have been found not guilty,” Graham said. Harness racing trainer Darrel Graham with (from left) wife Linda and daughters Brittany and Stephanie. “The horses I lost, the owners I lost, the horses I didn’t get, it is a bit unfair I think. That is the system but. It has cost us about half a million dollars to fight it all. “What cost can you put on losing owners and having horses taken off you when you’re suspended? You can’t put a price on the sleepless nights and the trauma it has put the family through either. “My daughter (Brittany), she works for Sky Channel and the perception was there ‘your dad is a drug cheat.’ “I can’t get my 12 months back that I sat on the sidelines. I could go to the races but I couldn’t touch a horse so you could imagine how that felt when you’ve been around horses for 35 years.” Mafuta Vautin has gone on to win another 26 races since that fateful Albion Park win on May 30, 2015 and is still racing as a 10-year-old Graham said he would “let the dust settle” on the issue and talk to his legal team further before he considers chasing damages from QRIC over the saga. In a statement, QRIC would not acknowledge whether Graham had been found not guilty. “It is not for the Racing Integrity Commission to confirm a Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal decision, however the Commission received notification of the Darrel Graham decision (on Friday), a copy of which can be obtained from the QCAT website once published.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 3 hours ago, The Centaur said: You seem confused. A complex usually means a range of vitamins. B1 isn't the vitamin associated with cobalt. I'm not confused - there are 8 different B vitamins. So you can administer a "B Complex". I left a 2 off the B1 - which should have read B12. Which has Cobalt as part of its make-up. To confuse the matter further B12 can be part of a "Cobalt Complex". All very complex! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 I don't pay the twenty bucks each month to read peterprofit.com but sometimes I wish I did........this morning he is onto the 'good ole boys' at Woodend Beach near Chch, well, the young men apparently, according to that website there has been very naughty happenings up that way........we've heard rumours, but when you put it up in flashing lights, God Help Us.......you think it's limited to the cheats on seats? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 22 hours ago, Joe Bloggs said: I don't pay the twenty bucks each month to read peterprofit.com but sometimes I wish I did........this morning he is onto the 'good ole boys' at Woodend Beach near Chch, well, the young men apparently, according to that website there has been very naughty happenings up that way........we've heard rumours, but when you put it up in flashing lights, God Help Us.......you think it's limited to the cheats on seats? You've just written a lot of words and said nothing. Does this Peter Profit write in the same style? There were allegations made in a Stuff article by Sam Sherwood in March 2021 after Alford was caught administering formalin. But there has been nothing published since. Unless something breaks in the next week I'd say Profit is full of BS. Actually a lot of what Profit writes is conjecture and innuendo and hardly brave as he avoids naming people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted November 26, 2021 Author Share Posted November 26, 2021 I suggest you pay the 20 bucks and read it, he names people all right, he's been naming the trot people here for ages, the rorts are getting worse, why he's now got onto NZ trot caper I don't know, he's named the gear, I don't know the bloke but I do believe him when he says he's had more death threats than Elliot Ness! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said: I suggest you pay the 20 bucks and read it, he names people all right, he's been naming the trot people here for ages, the rorts are getting worse, why he's now got onto NZ trot caper I don't know, he's named the gear, I don't know the bloke but I do believe him when he says he's had more death threats than Elliot Ness! But has he named people at Woodend? The EPO drug he alleges is being used is produced in India and the image he used has been downloaded from the net. All he's done is extrapolated from an allegation made in March. Where's the evidence? Where's the import paper trail? Or are the Woodend boys rowing out to sea to pick it up off fishing boatyard? Are we expecting "breaking news" from the Racing Integrity Board any day soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted November 26, 2021 Author Share Posted November 26, 2021 Dunno Chief, I do know Brenden has not been sued by the people he's outed before, and if you've been named you'd sue wouldn't you? I would, he's named some big fish here, and I'll give him his dues, he is not before the courts as far as I know and he's the only journalist with the balls to name names and chase them....there's so many sycophants posing as journos with no regard to the truth, only protecting their mates......there too! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 21 hours ago, Joe Bloggs said: Dunno Chief, I do know Brenden has not been sued by the people he's outed before, and if you've been named you'd sue wouldn't you? I would, he's named some big fish here, and I'll give him his dues, he is not before the courts as far as I know and he's the only journalist with the balls to name names and chase them....there's so many sycophants posing as journos with no regard to the truth, only protecting their mates......there too! Gives us a break Joe. Peter Profit aka Archibald Butterfly aka Brenden Sheehan has been in and out of court constantly. He isn't worth suing as like most punters he's broke. He's a con artist and ex unionist. You made a sensible decision to not invest $20 a month to read his shyte. He has as much credibility as Don Murray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 Ah, he lived in NZ and married a Kiwi as well, but the locals have forgiven him....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) They've been testing for EPO for 2 decades. Where are the positives? The claims don't make much sense to me. The beach out there at Woodend is awesome to train on though. Don't suppose that has anything to do with it? Can they test for sea air? Edited November 27, 2021 by curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 We should ask Lance. How the hell did he get away with it for so long? And we never did learn what was in the package that David Hayes received from the USA that was wrongfully delivered to him.........and of course we had the scandal at HRNSW all those years back when the Gleeson's were disqualified for life along with the swabbing steward and the senior steward who was tipping them off what horses were to be swabbed ,,,,,,and when........it's a long piece of string Curious, and IMO it's a synthetic now, so the metabolites will be vastly different to the early version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 19 hours ago, Joe Bloggs said: Ah, he lived in NZ and married a Kiwi as well, but the locals have forgiven him....... So he is the idiot that was going to stand against John Key a few elections ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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