Robalan Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Does Harness Racing New Zealand have any idea how long owners will put up with not being able to go to races and see their horse and talk to the trainer about its prospects. Surely these activities are a large part of the enjoyment of racing a horse. As a result of HRNZ,s overly strict interpretation of the Red Light covid requirements, owners are now not bothering to attend race meetings resulting in even more empty racecources. What will the long term effects of these unnecessary restrictions be. Will owners continue to race horses that they can never see, trained by people they can never talk to face to face. The 80% chance of losing money on racing a horse is surely enough to put people off racing horses without being stopped from interacting with their horse and trainer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 I don't think you can lay all the blame for this with HRNZ. The issue is the Government's stupid and unworkable Red Light Rules. Yes I agree HRNZ should be able to organise for Owner's to attend meetings where their horses are racing. BUT... It is technically a work place and I can't see any way of forestalling a complete close down of racing than by separating the workers (Drivers and Trainers) from the Owners and Public. What happens when ONE driver returns a positive test? Are all the other drivers considered close contacts and have to self-isolate? If that happens there goes racing. I'm not sure what HRNZ's policy is regarding Rapid Antigen Testing but NZTR are getting Jockey's to RAT test before entering a meeting. But that only forestalls the inevitable which is up to 24 days quarantine for all contacts of that Jockey. Many small and medium size business owners are not going to test so their businesses survive. So I wouldn't like to be HRNZ trying to work their way through this Labour Government mess of a system. Once the virus hits high numbers I'm picking you will see more and more non-compliance. Racing doesn't have enough street cred to lead that charge! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: I don't think you can lay all the blame for this with HRNZ. The issue is the Government's stupid and unworkable Red Light Rules. Yes I agree HRNZ should be able to organise for Owner's to attend meetings where their horses are racing. BUT... It is technically a work place and I can't see any way of forestalling a complete close down of racing than by separating the workers (Drivers and Trainers) from the Owners and Public. What happens when ONE driver returns a positive test? Are all the other drivers considered close contacts and have to self-isolate? If that happens there goes racing. I'm not sure what HRNZ's policy is regarding Rapid Antigen Testing but NZTR are getting Jockey's to RAT test before entering a meeting. But that only forestalls the inevitable which is up to 24 days quarantine. Many small and medium size business owners are not going to test so their businesses survive. So I wouldn't like to be HRNZ trying to work their way through this Labour Government mess of a system. Once the virus hits high numbers I'm picking you will see more and more non-compliance. Racing doesn't have enough street cred to lead that charge! You summed that up very well Chief. This Govt is so trigger happy and incompetent that no one knows where they stand and massive industries could get closed down at the drop of a hat. You will find people will stop reporting mild cases, they will just quietly go about their business. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robalan Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 I can go to a mall where there are hyndreds of people in an enclosed space. Surely going to a racecourse in an open environment is an entirely safer environment 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, Robalan said: I can go to a mall where there are hyndreds of people in an enclosed space. Surely going to a racecourse in an open environment is an entirely safer environment Yep it is. But if you have scanned in at any one of the outlets in the mall and one of those hundreds returns a positive test then you are staying at home for the next 7 days at least. But you are not essential to run a race meeting. So yes you could attend the race meeting but the prudent thing (because of the rules) is to not allow you any contact with anyone that has contact with a Trainer or Driver on the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robalan Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 Surely this is an acute over reaction in a part of New Zealand that has no current cases of Covid. How can the red light restrictions apply under those circumstances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Robalan said: Surely this is an acute over reaction in a part of New Zealand that has no current cases of Covid. How can the red light restrictions apply under those circumstances Go ask the Red Queen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) Reality is that NZ is now full of limp wrist, easily accepting of BS sheep. This is a mild virus that most people who test positive for this thing, do not have any symptoms or very mild at worst. Not a single person in ICU in NZ and next to no cases in the South Island and yet all these DICKHEADS think it is something to be worried about! As I have said many times before, suicides, broke business and partnership breakups are a far bigger worry than this effing COVID19!!!!!!!! Wake up NZ, it is nothing to do with a virus! The government is your enemy, not your friend! The jabbed are the ones that are transmitting this mild virus so why is it that the intelligent ones are the ones not allowed in pubs and restaurants etc? Watch this space as hopefully the sheep will awake from their slumber! Edited February 5, 2022 by Brodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Brodie said: Reality is that NZ is now full of limp wrist, easily accepting of BS sheep. Sheep don't have wrists. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Sheep don't have wrists. Dogs have wrists, so why dont sheep have wrists? Are sheep legs totally different to a dog’s leg? Anyway, you know what I mean, Chief! To be taking advice and accepting of what Ardern, Bloomfield etc. are wanking on about, without looking for the truth is limp wristed and poor form. The Labour Government is performing 100% at total incompetency and to continue to follow this BS in regards to Boosters giving you the best protection from this mild Omicron, is pathetic from the citizens of NZ! The consequences to peoples health from allowing toxins into their body is going to be catastrophic in the future! The CEO lf Pfizer even says that the Booster gives minimal protection, so go figure? In the next month or so Ardern will the want an Omicron accine to go into you FFS! Anyway if you are stupid enough to believe her then I wish you the best of luck, you will need it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Meanwhile on the subject of racecourse attendance........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Just now, Chief Stipe said: Meanwhile on the subject of racecourse attendance........ There is very little attendance Chief! Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Brodie said: There is very little attendance Chief! Why? No stand for the common folk at Addington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 26 minutes ago, Rangatira said: No stand for the common folk at Addington They have driven the punters and enthusiasts away from attending! I havent attended a full meeting at Addington for a couple of years, basically since the Commie closed the country down. Actually do not really miss it at all, for a variety lf reasons and I know many that dont bother now either. This is why I think interest is dwindling for the sport and it needs to be resurrected or the end result is not going to be that flash! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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