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36 minutes ago, Freda said:

Seems pretty self-explanatory to me.

Or   'where there's muck there's brass ' 

Really Freda?  Seems the industry participants have been happy to take dosh from wherever they can get their hands on it.  Pokies, tax breaks, free handouts, subsidies and on and on.

That said it all pales into insignificance when compared to what another sector of society has been given.

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6 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

What the hell are you on about?

Read article,  if want smear campaign, fake lawsuit, money in trust or get up high NZ First list Simon Lusk is the man. Would not be surprised if a few racing  industry use him. Say old mate LJM might even use him for his Mayoral bid.

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8 minutes ago, Gospel of Judas said:

Read article,  if want smear campaign, fake lawsuit, money in trust or get up high NZ First list Simon Lusk is the man. Would not be surprised if a few racing  industry use him. Say old mate LJM might even use him for his Mayoral bid.

Do you have any proof of what you infer?

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On 14/06/2022 at 2:13 PM, Chief Stipe said:

Do you have any proof of what you infer?

Sorry Doug been abit busy recently. Simon Lusk does share a few tactics you're former mate does.

https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/19-10-2018/i-am-just-motivated-to-cut-throats-meet-jami-lee-rosss-political-mastermind My, my does same phone calling regime as you know who.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/good-reads/8717357/Seriously-happy-to-upset-the-status-quo Sounds like fit in well with short garden nome 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/new-zealand-first-leader-winston-peters-denies-link-with-simon-lusk/TAGEM5H5DHPUJNULTEE6Q7LMQA/ We all know that is a pack of liars don't we? https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/128985110/lobbyists-cash-and-voldemort-political-donations-laid-bare-by-trial 

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/nzfirst-the-brexit-party-and-voldemort?amp&c=2054857284905535521&mkt=en-us 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/126747510/welcome-to-leo-land-the-strange-world-of-leo-molloy When ever Curia polling get involved, hiding behind the scenes  are Simon Lusk. But what is even funnier is geting advice from Michelle Boag. Ask John Tamihere how that went..

  

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9 hours ago, Gospel of Judas said:

Sorry Doug been abit busy recently. Simon Lusk does share a few tactics you're former mate does.

https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/19-10-2018/i-am-just-motivated-to-cut-throats-meet-jami-lee-rosss-political-mastermind My, my does same phone calling regime as you know who.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/good-reads/8717357/Seriously-happy-to-upset-the-status-quo Sounds like fit in well with short garden nome 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/new-zealand-first-leader-winston-peters-denies-link-with-simon-lusk/TAGEM5H5DHPUJNULTEE6Q7LMQA/ We all know that is a pack of liars don't we? https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/128985110/lobbyists-cash-and-voldemort-political-donations-laid-bare-by-trial 

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/nzfirst-the-brexit-party-and-voldemort?amp&c=2054857284905535521&mkt=en-us 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/126747510/welcome-to-leo-land-the-strange-world-of-leo-molloy When ever Curia polling get involved, hiding behind the scenes  are Simon Lusk. But what is even funnier is geting advice from Michelle Boag. Ask John Tamihere how that went..

  

What's this got to do with racing Hamish?  Are you still in the Young Nats?

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Well Doug, It seems a few in Racing currently providing evidence in political donation trials. Which cause, those donations helped influence current Racing Act and received many millions in funding from the Government, through Provincial Growth Fund. Suppose a few in Waikato and Auckland must be geting abit nervous? . Most people love to be able get millions in Government handouts to fund business operations and pay stuff all in taxes. What make Racing so special it receives these?

"The donations lodged in the account of the company included three donations from an earlier prosecution witness, Ron Woodrow, of $9998, $4999 and $4999 between 2016 and 2017, $14,000 from Peter Kraus in 2015, a monthly $1000 from horse breeder David Ellis over 10 months in 2016-17, and $15,000 from racing figure Sir Peter Vela in March 2017." 

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/news/sfo-details-not-one-but-two-nzf-secret-funds

Oh! plus many other names in Racing listed in this piece as well. Since so many, just leave the link for people to read.

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/millionaires-for-nz-first

Dear me, what crocked old look. Since Winston Peters use lecture everyone else about Corruption . A number of people are having good old laugh about all this.

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57 minutes ago, Gospel of Judas said:

Well Doug, It seems a few in Racing currently providing evidence in political donation trials. Which cause, those donations helped influence current Racing Act and received many millions in funding from the Government, through Provincial Growth Fund. Suppose a few in Waikato and Auckland must be geting abit nervous? . Most people love to be able get millions in Government handouts to fund business operations and pay stuff all in taxes. What make Racing so special it receives these?

"The donations lodged in the account of the company included three donations from an earlier prosecution witness, Ron Woodrow, of $9998, $4999 and $4999 between 2016 and 2017, $14,000 from Peter Kraus in 2015, a monthly $1000 from horse breeder David Ellis over 10 months in 2016-17, and $15,000 from racing figure Sir Peter Vela in March 2017." 

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/news/sfo-details-not-one-but-two-nzf-secret-funds

Oh! plus many other names in Racing listed in this piece as well. Since so many, just leave the link for people to read.

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/millionaires-for-nz-first

Dear me, what crocked old look. Since Winston Peters use lecture everyone else about Corruption . A number of people are having good old laugh about all this.

Big deal Hamster.  All a bit petty really.  But whatever spins your wheel.

 

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1 hour ago, Gospel of Judas said:

Well Doug, It seems a few in Racing currently providing evidence in political donation trials. Which cause, those donations helped influence current Racing Act and received many millions in funding from the Government, through Provincial Growth Fund. Suppose a few in Waikato and Auckland must be geting abit nervous? . Most people love to be able get millions in Government handouts to fund business operations and pay stuff all in taxes. What make Racing so special it receives these?

"The donations lodged in the account of the company included three donations from an earlier prosecution witness, Ron Woodrow, of $9998, $4999 and $4999 between 2016 and 2017, $14,000 from Peter Kraus in 2015, a monthly $1000 from horse breeder David Ellis over 10 months in 2016-17, and $15,000 from racing figure Sir Peter Vela in March 2017." 

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/news/sfo-details-not-one-but-two-nzf-secret-funds

Oh! plus many other names in Racing listed in this piece as well. Since so many, just leave the link for people to read.

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/millionaires-for-nz-first

Dear me, what crocked old look. Since Winston Peters use lecture everyone else about Corruption . A number of people are having good old laugh about all this.

Look, I have to be honest, Gospel's appalling grammar always makes me think he is a bit simple minded and I never take much notice at all of his postings. And yet in a recent post he claimed to have a university degree.

I assume he has English as a second language, so full credit for that, most of us on here struggle with the one language.

If he would only read over his posts before sending them to tidy up any errors he might find people take more notice of what he says.

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2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Big deal Hamster.  All a bit petty really.  But whatever spins your wheel.

 

Poor old Doug, makes out he is  big champion of Free Speech. But when reality hits, it is all about him and who pays him, from his usually sources. Perhaps, should merge the site back in with Channel X. Don't see lot difference to be fair. Can see why this site, is slowly mirroring Racing, going down the tube. Because, we have got hide our issues...

A number find it interesting you love outing people and being petty. Very strange behavior , especially on how you view the Privacy Act requirements. 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Doomed said:

Look, I have to be honest, Gospel's appalling grammar always makes me think he is a bit simple minded and I never take much notice at all of his postings. And yet in a recent post he claimed to have a university degree.

I assume he has English as a second language, so full credit for that, most of us on here struggle with the one language.

If he would only read over his posts before sending them to tidy up any errors he might find people take more notice of what he says.

Poor Doomed got attack the man, because got nothing to fight back against the arguments presented. Sound like, one of those breeding elites from Waikato been caught out donating . How was interview with Serious Fraud Office? they don't piss around. They only go for cases got 95% chance of wining, from what my good lawyer freind tells me. He use do prosecutions for IRD for three years and does many major commercial cases these days. 

Don't worry, you're cheap insulants about my university education do you more disservice, than me.

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57 minutes ago, Gospel of Judas said:

Poor old Doug, makes out he is  big champion of Free Speech. But when reality hits, it is all about him and who pays him, from his usually sources

Hamish you haven't changed your modus operandi in the more than 10 years you've been posting on Racing Forums.  You still haven't learnt to use grammar check either.

Not that it is any of your business but I can say that at no point in time has BOAY received any funding from anyone be they a Waikato Racing luminary or otherwise

That said if anyone wants to make a donation then I'd be more than happy to accept it providing advertising in return.

1 hour ago, Gospel of Judas said:

A number find it interesting you love outing people and being petty. Very strange behavior , especially on how you view the Privacy Act requirements. 

Haven't outed anyone Hamish.  People such as yourself do it themselves.  Must be a Marlborough thing.

 

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7 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Hamish you haven't changed your modus operandi in the more than 10 years you've been posting on Racing Forums.  You still haven't learnt to use grammar check either.

Not that it is any of your business but I can say that at no point in time has BOAY received any funding from anyone be they a Waikato Racing luminary or otherwise

That said if anyone wants to make a donation then I'd be more than happy to accept it providing advertising in return.

Haven't outed anyone Hamish.  People such as yourself do it themselves.  Must be a Marlborough thing.

 

Poor old Doug, still going on about be paid wrecking ball set in by Leo to do his dirty work on Racechat. You two, still both suite each other, why don't go back on Channel X?. Considering  suppose be nothing force. You guys still worry about me like i am you're biggest threat? .Perhaps all you Racing guys, should spend all this time, clearing out you're own industry.

This court case kind shown the crocked length Racing ,go to get free handouts off the taxpayer. About time stood on its own two feet. Can see why majority of people think Racing is corrupt. With carry on like this.

Keep up breaking Privacy Act Doug, kind really showing you up, for who you really are. Good reason why so many have just left and site is ending up like Channel X. 

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12 minutes ago, Gospel of Judas said:

Poor old Doug, still going on about be paid wrecking ball set in by Leo to do his dirty work on Racechat. You two, still both suite each other, why don't go back on Channel X?. Considering  suppose be nothing force. You guys still worry about me like i am you're biggest threat? .Perhaps all you Racing guys, should spend all this time, clearing out you're own industry.

This court case kind shown the crocked length Racing ,go to get free handouts off the taxpayer. About time stood on its own two feet. Can see why majority of people think Racing is corrupt. With carry on like this.

Keep up breaking Privacy Act Doug, kind really showing you up, for who you really are. Good reason why so many have just left and site is ending up like Channel X. 

Geez you write a load of shyte.  Suggest you get your facts right in the future.

As for being "worried about you" - rest assured no one gives a shyte about your incoherent ramblings.

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30 minutes ago, Gospel of Judas said:

Poor old Doug, still going on about be paid wrecking ball set in by Leo to do his dirty work on Racechat. You two, still both suite each other, why don't go back on Channel X?. Considering  suppose be nothing force. You guys still worry about me like i am you're biggest threat? .Perhaps all you Racing guys, should spend all this time, clearing out you're own industry.

This court case kind shown the crocked length Racing ,go to get free handouts off the taxpayer. About time stood on its own two feet. Can see why majority of people think Racing is corrupt. With carry on like this.

Keep up breaking Privacy Act Doug, kind really showing you up, for who you really are. Good reason why so many have just left and site is ending up like Channel X. 

Do you never read back over your posts and realise most don't make any sense at all? 

In an attempt to be helpful, you're means you are. If you are trying to say anything other than you are you should use your.

If you want to interact with people you should make an effort to comply with normal grammatical conventions.

I suggest you try posting in your main language and leave it up to people to translate it. I'm not even sure what your main language is. It doesn't sound like any European or even Asian language as you don't make the usual errors those speakers do when writing English.

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