Yankiwi Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Seems a couple of others could use industry money being paid to them for the rehoming process to pay off their debts to GRNZ after a disqualification for a Meth positive. Surely if the rehoming space is needed, GRNZ will be on the phone to them ASAP. https://www.grnz.co.nz/Files/Defaulters Lists/20230411 Defaulters list as at 11 April 2023.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, BitofaLegend said: The issues with how the rules of racing are written, source of contamination is irrelevant. Your already guilty regardless That's why the rules and penalties need a review. Zero is now more Zero than it was before. The RIB should be transparent in publishing the levels that are detected in a positive. GRNZ and the other two codes should also revist Zero and establish thresholds otherwise there will be more and more environmental contamination cases. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, Yankiwi said: Seems a couple of others could use industry money being paid to them for the rehoming process to pay off their debts to GRNZ after a disqualification for a Meth positive. Now you are being facetious. What is it exactly that you are trying to get changed? As yet you have provided ZERO evidence that the Waretini property is part of the Great Mates/GAP rehoming programe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said: That's why the rules and penalties need a review. Zero is now more Zero than it was before. The RIB should be transparent in publishing the levels that are detected in a positive. GRNZ and the other two codes should also revist Zero and establish thresholds otherwise there will be more and more environmental contamination cases. I agree, it needs to be reviewed. As of this latest case it hasn't yet been, so it needs to be treated on an equal level to all those before it. My problem from the start of all this is that GRNZ will paying industry money to a now disqualified trainer/handler where they have never given the option to any of the prior cases. Compare the Waretini cases with the Gowan cases & it will become clear. Both a single Meth + Both a clear previous record Both with meth inside their transport vehicles. This comparison is noted in Lisa's decision ~ 49. RIB v Gowan (2022) The charge was found proved following a defended hearing. A starting point of 16 months disqualification was adopted and, after taking into account aggravating factors, an end period of 18 months was imposed. The Respondent was described as being uncooperative and obstructive in trying to avoid the testing process or delay it. This resulted in an uplift of 3 months from the starting point of 16 months, with a deduction of 1 month for the unblemished record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 @Yankiwi you still haven't provided proof that your accusations are correct or if the other disqualified parties asked to be part of Great Mates and were declined? Assuming with the latter of course that their disqualification was AFTER the programme was set up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four shaw Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Let's hope gowan an friends are doing rehab an getting better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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