Portfolio Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 What a complete shambles!! Anyone know if the TABs form has been switched to suit new track? Lets hope so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 Well Kenny said the contractors used a different sifting procedure...and the big ones got through!! Telling yesterday though...Oatham was interviewed and said "the drains are now becoming blocked...and a very bad area has become apparent on the turn out of the straight" ffs...this track appears totally rooted Will NZTR open an INQUIRY behind the f up... ...and insist any track repairs on any track....should come under the auspices of themselves... ...so there's no more f ups? ...and if there is...they're solely responsible...not Kenny...who forgot to supervise a piss up in a Brewery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Gee said on this thread, that it was like quicksand, which suggests a lot finer grade of sand was used, than specified, and would explain why the drains are getting blocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltedMilkshake Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 On 23/08/2018 at 11:29 AM, hesi said: Agree, are they not all busy making money elsewhere Not just Rutherford to fall either, all those that run the club KFE and mob It’s called accountability .....something that does not exist in NZ..in just about every aspect of life. in fact, not only should Ken Rutherford be removed but Karen Fenton Ellis needs to make a public statement in her capacity as Chairman of the Board of Waikato Racing Club as to how this happened and what they are going to do to remedy a hopeless situation. Then she should resign . That’s called accountability. But of course, it will be all those who depend on the course for various aspects of their day to day living that will be left holding the can...that’s accountability NZ style. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltedMilkshake Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 minute ago, MaltedMilkshake said: It’s called accountability .....something that does not exist in NZ..in just about every aspect of life. in fact, not only should Ken Rutherford be removed but Karen Fenton Ellis needs to make a public statement in her capacity as Chairman of the Board of Waikato Racing Club as to how this happened and what they are going to do to remedy a hopeless situation. Then she should resign . That’s called accountability. But of course, it will be all those who depend on the course for various aspects of their day to day living that will be left holding the can...that’s accountability NZ style. In fact, picnic race clubs are run better in Australia because they are held accountable. credibility...but when your central body charged with running the industry is so flawed then problems such as Te Rapa happen under everyone’s nose and no one is responsible...gimme a break...it’s amazing to think this country can actually get out of bed each day and function. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I just drove past the course and the normal Next Race Meeting sign is blank, shows little confidence that Octobers meeting isn't even listed on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 Let's get the right oil shall we...directly from Kenny After the Waikato RC meeting on February 10, the course proper was sand carpeted. The sand was applied by the same contractor as the Club has used in the past. Whilst the actual sand is the same quality, the sifting process differed and bigger particles were applied to the track. Four (4) mms of sand was asked by the Club to be applied. The contractor spread up to 3 cms of sand in certain places. Remedial work was completed on the inside 12 metres of the course proper after the May 19 meeting. With the rail back to a True position for the next meeting on July 7, the Club is confident the racing surface will be of a good standard”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 27 minutes ago, Thomass said: Whilst the actual sand is the same quality, the sifting process differed and bigger particles were applied to the track. Doesn't make sense When u run something through a sieve it retains the coarser particles allowing the finer ones to pass through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 52 minutes ago, hesi said: Doesn't make sense When u run something through a sieve it retains the coarser particles allowing the finer ones to pass through you got it hebce y someones telling porkies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 58 minutes ago, hesi said: Doesn't make sense When u run something through a sieve it retains the coarser particles allowing the finer ones to pass through Maybe the sieve was upside down? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 37 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Maybe the sieve was upside down? Either that or they spread the wrong pile? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 minute ago, curious said: Either that or they spread the wrong pile? nope only pile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 So, from what I can see at least 4 things went wrong here. The wrong filter fabric was laid (I assume that's what Thommo means by "gauzy stuff"), 10 times the amount of sand carpet was laid than was supposed to be, that sand was the wrong grade, and miraculously neither the contractor or Te Rapa staff noticed, or if they did they decided not to worry about it. The latter may require a large number needing a trip to specsavers or quite a few DCMs. There's only two ways the other things could have happened. Either the wrong grades and quantities were specified, or the contractor can't read. Who was the contractor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltedMilkshake Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 To put all the hearsay to rest, how about the Chairman of the Board, actually release a statement advising the facts and what they are doing to remedy the track surface...actually it’s pretty important .... the track is one of the country’s premier venues....is that too difficult to expect? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 30 minutes ago, MaltedMilkshake said: To put all the hearsay to rest, how about the Chairman of the Board, actually release a statement advising the facts and what they are doing to remedy the track surface...actually it’s pretty important .... the track is one of the country’s premier venues....is that too difficult to expect? Why would you expect that would be anything but a continuation of the current fairy story There must have been someone in authority on site with the necessary expertise to make a call that the grade of sand was incorrect It's the same old story, once you tell one porky you have to keep on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasel Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 10 hours ago, MaltedMilkshake said: It’s called accountability .....something that does not exist in NZ..in just about every aspect of life. in fact, not only should Ken Rutherford be removed but Karen Fenton Ellis needs to make a public statement in her capacity as Chairman of the Board of Waikato Racing Club as to how this happened and what they are going to do to remedy a hopeless situation. Then she should resign . That’s called accountability. But of course, it will be all those who depend on the course for various aspects of their day to day living that will be left holding the can...that’s accountability NZ style. Well said MM ..I am disappointed that KFE has been noticeably quiet in the aftermath. As a PR expert she may have advised herself to keep her head below the parapet for a while, but as Chairman of a very high profile and important racing organisation she should be showing better leadership qualities ..ie explaining what happened; apologising for it; outlining all actions that are being taken to deal with the consequences; and prevention measures. That's what a Chairman should be doing in these circumstances, IMO. As you say, accountability. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 12 hours ago, Weasel said: Well said MM ..I am disappointed that KFE has been noticeably quiet in the aftermath. As a PR expert she may have advised herself to keep her head below the parapet for a while, but as Chairman of a very high profile and important racing organisation she should be showing better leadership qualities ..ie explaining what happened; apologising for it; outlining all actions that are being taken to deal with the consequences; and prevention measures. That's what a Chairman should be doing in these circumstances, IMO. As you say, accountability. i pretty sure they are showing great qualities , if the full story not been given to them how can they give it to us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 But their organisation that is being made a monkey of, so their job to find out WTF is going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 18 hours ago, gee said: nope only pile Gee You're giving me piles .. I don't know how many multi afflictions you've got but spit it out son...or forever hold your piece.... give it all...then we'll judge whether you just need another colonic and if you need to be put on the b/s radar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 we 52 minutes ago, hesi said: But their organisation that is being made a monkey of, so their job to find out WTF is going on yup but , got be asked why is it and why has it gotten this far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 39 minutes ago, Thomass said: Gee You're giving me piles .. I don't know how many multi afflictions you've got but spit it out son...or forever hold your piece.... give it all...then we'll judge whether you just need another colonic and if you need to be put on the b/s radar Be patient Saying it could open up a can of worms for the sayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxie Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 The silence is deafening. Typical spin tactics though - "let's wait - we've got the industry awards (=smoke) and then Winstons announcement (=mirrors")....hopefully the sand (noise) will drain (go) away." Geez who'd pay their membership fees for this season if no racing is going to happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Yep, definite spin strategy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 47 minutes ago, Boxie said: The silence is deafening. Typical spin tactics though - "let's wait - we've got the industry awards (=smoke) and then Winstons announcement (=mirrors")....hopefully the sand (noise) will drain (go) away." Geez who'd pay their membership fees for this season if no racing is going to happen? i think like Auckland they just run it out of other clubs as there days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 i don't think left with many if any options at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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