Joe Bloggs Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Now I know most of you aren't responsible for the housekeeping duties in your humble abodes, however bear with me if you will while I point out some alarming discrepancies tween Oz and NZ, and then, hopefully, you learned people will give me a lesson in domestic economics...... Did the weekly shop yesty, and was overjoyed to pay; $7-99kg for beef sausages from the deli, $10-99 for chicken breast fillets, $19-99kg for prime porterhouse steak, $11-99kg for middle bacon, [Aus] $22-00kg for T-bone steak and $13-99kg for some of the tangiest bitey cheddar cheese ever, and as a splurge, $16-00 for a kg of AUS cooked large tiger prawns, and Lamb Cutlets, cut from the rack $23kg........ I wont bore you with the grocery items, but great value.......then filled the car E10 @ $1-47, chuffed. Then got home and decided to pay my Oz trainer, $80+10%gst a day, country based but 1 hour from the Gold Coast, racing generally for about 25K.......13 to the winner, but entered midweek for 35K.......if she goes ok, [won 2 starts back] she'll go to Sat for 75K or down to Randwick for a highway, where they pay 1K for 10th, benchmarks are 2700 for 10th? Farrier was $170, [cash cheaper] transport costs subsidised by trainer, [cheap]......commercial rates, reasonable. no pay up, jockey paid by clubs, starters incentive about $470 for lowest stake races. Our NZ trainer is base rate 70 +++.......good trainer, nice person..... farrier, $190...., poor value, transport, astronomical, shocking value, racing for bags of spuds, starters incentive, laughable....... Salaries at HQ? if there were KPI'S involved, most at senior level would be dismissed, here, except for QLD and SA, are more than acceptable based on KPI's..... What's my point?.....my mate that lives in Devonport shopped at his local New World and sent me the docket......????....FFS......how the fuck do you people live? How has NZ become such a basket case, my mate has a good job, but 60 bucks for Lamb Cutlets and being asked to pay 15 bucks a kg for beef FLAVOURED pre-cooked sausages, WTF?.......there were so many items on his docket that were just unbelievable, a working man/woman in NZ must be stretched to breaking point, so, how the hell is racing going to be sustainable? It just can't be, if ever the Asian garden of eden dries up, so nowhere to flog the great NZ racehorse, it's a tits up industry, Petone is a fools paradise....or is it? maybe we don't give them the credit they deserve, maybe they identified it as a sunset industry a while back and just decided to get out of it what they could......not all, but the imports sure knew where their bread is/was buttered. Our last horse, is still in NZ, a baby, will do her education there and any ability at all will be airlifted out quick smart.......if there was a viable alternative we would gladly take it, but it's not looking good for NZ and you don't need me to tell you that. I would guess there is about 20% of industry participants doing ok in NZ, 30/40% scratching a living and the rest, well, below the poverty line? and we all know what happens to livestock if the principal is doing it tough....... Figures generally don't lie, unless the've been manipulated, we've all seen the creative accounting from past reports, NZ TAB is a perfect example, but looking at the general, mainstream costs and charges across all boards, trouble is brewing......... So, get in, strap yourselves down, hold on tight and get ready for a bumpy ride.......there's always AIR NZ or Jetstar/Qantas, and there's always a spare bed at Joe's place! = 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 How many can you fit in the spare bed? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted September 28, 2022 Author Share Posted September 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, curious said: How many can you fit in the spare bed? Its a queen bed, so it's up to you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honestjohn Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 I'm in chch, I do all cooking here (I'm very good, Indian, Italian and Thai my faves, ) so I buy most of the meat here. Lamb $12 kg whole lamb from halal butcher. I butcher it Chicken $9 kg. I buy from 2 suppliers Beef. $21 kg eye fillet, I buywhole fillets. Also halal $17 kg porterhouse. I buy whole strip. Horse fees has been covered on another thread. I'm currently in a syndicate with a harness horse. $180 for 10% share. Veges here are ridiculous but I still pay. Agria potato here I get from the farm 10 kg $7 Bulk is always best. Your training for gallopers on a level with a friend who has a horse with Te akau. Be aware..... There are ratbags in all codes Hj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted September 28, 2022 Author Share Posted September 28, 2022 46 minutes ago, Honestjohn said: I'm in chch, I do all cooking here (I'm very good, Indian, Italian and Thai my faves, ) so I buy most of the meat here. Lamb $12 kg whole lamb from halal butcher. I butcher it Chicken $9 kg. I buy from 2 suppliers Beef. $21 kg eye fillet, I buywhole fillets. Also halal $17 kg porterhouse. I buy whole strip. Horse fees has been covered on another thread. I'm currently in a syndicate with a harness horse. $180 for 10% share. Veges here are ridiculous but I still pay. Agria potato here I get from the farm 10 kg $7 Bulk is always best. Your training for gallopers on a level with a friend who has a horse with Te akau. Be aware..... There are ratbags in all codes Hj You need to email New World John, Honest, you should..........If they are doing that in AKL, I would imagine NW pricing in Chch is pretty much the same? At least your meat was facing Mecca when it's throat was cut and not Petone! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honestjohn Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said: You need to email New World John, Honest, you should..........If they are doing that in AKL, I would imagine NW pricing in Chch is pretty much the same? At least your meat was facing Mecca when it's throat was cut and not Petone! Day to day stuff is new world as its just up the road, daughter and grandson here as well as between homes. I love new world choices. Not a fan of pack and slap. Hj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Honestjohn said: Day to day stuff is new world as its just up the road, daughter and grandson here as well as between homes. I love new world choices. Not a fan of pack and slap. Hj Ha....neither am I! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turny Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Freda said: Ha....neither am I! If you stick solely to NW Club Card and Super Savers they are cheaper than Pak and Run Source ... Foodstuffs website 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honestjohn Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, Turny said: If you stick solely to NW Club Card and Super Savers they are cheaper than Pak and Run Source ... Foodstuffs website Last time I looked at lamb loin chops at new world they were $24kg. I'm not buying at those prices. Hj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turny Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, Honestjohn said: Last time I looked at lamb loin chops at new world they were $24kg. I'm not buying at those prices. Hj Gotta be very disciplined HJ Only Club Card and Super Saver, after 3 months work out the cycle of discounts and it is simple, huge savings ... no Pam's or Signature product .. genuine product. Last month for the 2 of us 528 with savings of 95.49 registered on my Clucard ... happy with that and full premier products. Easy if you are very very disciplined .. no deviation from Club Card or Super Saver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Honestjohn said: Last time I looked at lamb loin chops at new world they were $24kg. I'm not buying at those prices. Hj That's a special price to, usually 31.99kg, nz meat way over priced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 I don't buy a lot of meat, but use the local butcher when I do. There is a direct Market for fruit/vegetables just up the road, far better value than the outrageous prices seen at supermarkets for the same. Also, I keep to what is local and fresh [ mostly ], there is no need to buy Australian tomatoes [ taste like wet cardboard ] or Californian grapes...on the whole I manage ok. And I don't have an income that I can waste. New World otherwise for grocery items, the range of products I find far superior. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted September 28, 2022 Author Share Posted September 28, 2022 10 hours ago, Shad said: That's a special price to, usually 31.99kg, nz meat way over priced. Lamb Loin chops here in Oz about 15-99 mostly, gotta go the cutlets though, no comparison. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Joe Bloggs said: Lamb Loin chops here in Oz about 15-99 mostly, gotta go the cutlets though, no comparison. Cutlets in nz be 40$ and some per kg, lamb racks be very similar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted September 28, 2022 Author Share Posted September 28, 2022 29 minutes ago, Shad said: Cutlets in nz be 40$ and some per kg, lamb racks be very similar. That's why the All Blacks have become easy beats Shad, no one can afford to eat meat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 We pay $28 for grass fed racks which are the same as cutlets aren't they? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honestjohn Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 15 hours ago, Turny said: Gotta be very disciplined HJ Only Club Card and Super Saver, after 3 months work out the cycle of discounts and it is simple, huge savings ... no Pam's or Signature product .. genuine product. Last month for the 2 of us 528 with savings of 95.49 registered on my Clucard ... happy with that and full premier products. Easy if you are very very disciplined .. no deviation from Club Card or Super Saver As I mentioned I buy bulk, as in whole lamb, so I know the cost for everything. I will get a pic of the one I'm getting this arvo. I will get a lot of meat off that one carcass. I've never seen lamb for $11kg anywhere. Hj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honestjohn Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Shad said: Cutlets in nz be 40$ and some per kg, lamb racks be very similar. Exactly and why I buy whole and get my choice of cuts. Hj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honestjohn Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, curious said: We pay $28 for grass fed racks which are the same as cutlets aren't they? Pretty much the same, I use cutlets in my tandoori cutlets, which are very yummy, Good as any out there. I roast all my spices. Hj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honestjohn Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 5 hours ago, Freda said: I don't buy a lot of meat, but use the local butcher when I do. There is a direct Market for fruit/vegetables just up the road, far better value than the outrageous prices seen at supermarkets for the same. Also, I keep to what is local and fresh [ mostly ], there is no need to buy Australian tomatoes [ taste like wet cardboard ] or Californian grapes...on the whole I manage ok. And I don't have an income that I can waste. New World otherwise for grocery items, the range of products I find far superior. Growers direct? I buy tomatoes there when on special, I make my own tomato sauce and pasta sauce as well. Hj 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted September 28, 2022 Author Share Posted September 28, 2022 HJ, you're a legend, you should have your own section on here, ''Direct selling 2 U'.......Countdown, NW and Push and Shove need to watch out, you're a counterpuncher, the gouging by the big 3 is omnipresent so you're the hope of the side, looking forward to your catalogue HJ, bring it on...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honestjohn Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Joe Bloggs said: HJ, you're a legend, you should have your own section on here, ''Direct selling 2 U'.......Countdown, NW and Push and Shove need to watch out, you're a counterpuncher, the gouging by the big 3 is omnipresent so you're the hope of the side, looking forward to your catalogue HJ, bring it on...... My cousin is a butcher in nerang, One of my mates is a butcher, ex halswall butchery, ex elite meats bush inn. BTW I'm not frugal, but I like a bargain. I know i pay over the odds but I do prefer organic from whole foods on riccarton rd. Their produce is top of the line. I recently cooked for a mate, organic baby carrots glazed with orange zest. Organic garlic sauce. Halal killed fillet. Hj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 8 hours ago, Honestjohn said: My cousin is a butcher in nerang, One of my mates is a butcher, ex halswall butchery, ex elite meats bush inn. BTW I'm not frugal, but I like a bargain. I know i pay over the odds but I do prefer organic from whole foods on riccarton rd. Their produce is top of the line. I recently cooked for a mate, organic baby carrots glazed with orange zest. Organic garlic sauce. Halal killed fillet. 10 hours ago, Honestjohn said: As I mentioned I buy bulk, as in whole lamb, so I know the cost for everything. I will get a pic of the one I'm getting this arvo. I will get a lot of meat off that one carcass. I've never seen lamb for $11kg anywhere. Hj Interesting what you would pay for a whole lamb these days, especially from an a licensed meat retailer, given there prices per kg, I'm a purist and all those marinades take away the lamb flavor for me, but each to their own. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 12 hours ago, Joe Bloggs said: That's why the All Blacks have become easy beats Shad, no one can afford to eat meat. Think they must of dined on kangaroo they other night, seemed to have more spring in their step. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted September 29, 2022 Author Share Posted September 29, 2022 10 hours ago, Shad said: Think they must of dined on kangaroo they other night, seemed to have more spring in their step. Roo is leaner than venison Shad, and IMO more tasty, in MEL when the AB's were gifted victory they dined on frogs legs and snails.......I'm thinking in AKL the Wallabies may have been served their pre game meal by a dodgy waitress from Browns Bay with an Africaans accent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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