Chief Stipe Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Chautauqua jumps, but still a long way behind them Chautauqua works home strongly down the outside in his trial on Saturday. Photo: Steve Hart. Article Author Clinton Payne 25 August 2018 0 Comments An anxious crowd at Rosehill watched intently, waiting to see if Chautauqua would jump in his barrier trial on Saturday and he did – the problem was it was a couple of seconds after the rest of the field left the barriers. The champion sprinter ventured to the races on Saturday with his career on a knife’s edge, after failing to jump on terms with his opponents “to stewards’ satisfaction” in seven of his last eight barrier trials or jumpouts. Reports came out of the Hawkes Racing stable during the week, the popular grey had been jumping in barrier practice which brought renewed optimism that Chautauqua’s phobia could be a thing of the past but those hopes were quickly dashed. Loaded into the inside gate, jockey Tommy Berry patting Chautauqua’s near side flank until grabbing the reins when the starter mounted his rostrum. The gates opened - seven of the eight starters left the barriers while Chautauqua resisted Berry’s urgings until eventually jumping, giving his opponents “five or six lengths” start. Sky Racing ✔@SkyRacingAU Once again Chautauqua has failed to exit the barriers effectively. He was, however, very competitive down the straight, making up a huge amount of ground for a close second to Zousain. 3:37 PM - Aug 25, 2018 119 79 people are talking about this "His last six times (In unofficial Rosehill jumpouts) he'd jumped," Berry said. "I came here thinking he'd jump for sure today. "They'd gone a fair few strides when he jumped out and when he did jump out he cruised around behind them and then picked them up in the straight with plenty left if the tank. "Still not ideal, not good enough but he felt incredible." Chief steward Marc Van Gestel said stewards would have discussions with the stable before making a decision on Chautauqua's future. “We did say if the horse refused to jump that would be it but he hasn’t refused to jump,” Van Gestel said. “Obviously in our mind it wasn’t a satisfactory trial. “Whether or not it leaves the door open or not is something for us to consider.” Chautauqua tacked onto the field as they entered the straight in the 1000m trial, working home strongly to finish second to Zousain, actions which Van Gestel said creates something of “a grey area now”. “If he refused to jump it would have been black and white as to what the decision would have been,” he said. “We have to consider now if we give the horse another opportunity.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thomass Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Talk about flogging a dead horse... Thats hopeless Stewarding...there's no b&w at all...it didn't jump...end of Punters need protecting at all times...apart from the horse not wanting to race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 The champion grey looks very much alive the way it finished over the top of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Does he really want to be a pack animal though? or a COTC neddy...can't be fooked now really... ...owner/trainers should be ashamed of themselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 He's always been as eccentric as you Tank. He never really liked jumping with the others! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Oh..ffs...let him have the retirement he is clearly looking for. Greedy bunch of pricks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 23 minutes ago, Freda said: Oh..ffs...let him have the retirement he is clearly looking for. Greedy bunch of pricks. I beg to differ Freda. I'd agree if he refused to race completely. But he just isn't jumping with them but he NEVER has! Take a look at all his big race wins. You'd agree that his condition looks fantastic at the moment. For some reason the horse has always had a brain fade about leaving the gates. I think as he has got older he has got blonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 In them olde days... The boss would have grabbed the kid apprentice... ...got the Cattle prod from behind the barley cooker... ...taken said ignorant neddy down the back of the farm...by the cess pit... ...and do a bit of pointing..cattle prod or cess pit...your choice nek Minute.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Whats the problem, punters know that he could miss the start, thats the chance they take. No difference to Lord module in the 80s, that old shit was worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Whats the problem, punters know that he could miss the start, thats the chance they take. No difference to Lord module in the 80s, that old shit was worse. Yes and Chautauqua has always been a risk. Unlike Lord Module there doesn't seem to be any obvious physical condition causing Chautauqua to not jump. I would say in today's environment Lord Module would have been banned from racing due to quarter cracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Still trying to get into The Everest 2 slots left As a slot holder would you risk your 700k slot on Willie Mullins Willie Mason Willie Wonka..,.........or Will he Jump fark NO!!!!!! Game over!!!!!!! Anywho looking at the trial nice trial from The Autumn Sun 2nd trial back looks set for the riches on offer Now I seen a trialist earlier in the week from the Hayes stable who had won its only start impressively at Geelong I think it was and has been shifted up to their Sydney stable called “More Sundays” out of the black type dam there’s that word again More Joyous talk about an impressive trial Anywho forget Chautauqua just give one of the remaining slots to Nature Strip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Yes and Chautauqua has always been a risk. Unlike Lord Module there doesn't seem to be any obvious physical condition causing Chautauqua to not jump. I would say in today's environment Lord Module would have been banned from racing due to quarter cracks. Not sure lord modules quarter cracks made him so pig headed, sure it affected him running, but he refused to even walk at times, fell over and tefused to get up? In the head me thinks, but these type of nags have the ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 5 hours ago, Newmarket said: Whats the problem, punters know that he could miss the start, thats the chance they take. No difference to Lord module in the 80s, that old shit was worse. Agree, pay your money and take your chance, that's why it's called gambling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Agree. He's always just fallen out of the gates and only winds up the last 200. Arrogant old bugger! Not much different in his trial the other day. Kinda like he says "no panic, we'll just fall out of the gates, follow them around and run past them the last furlong. I know where the line is." Not much different from his trial the other day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 From Racing NSW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Possible sad end for the champ's career in Oz. I note they've labelled it a preliminary decision. Be interesting to see the response and what happens now. Seems they've left the door open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Updated version: Following Chautauqua failing to jump from the barriers to the satisfaction of Racing NSW Stewards in a barrier trial at the Rosehill Gardens race meeting on Saturday, 25 August 2018, Racing NSW Stewards have advised the connections of Chautauqua that their preliminary decision is that, acting under the provisions of AR50, the nominations of the gelding should be refused for all barrier trials and race meetings. In order to provide the connections with due process, the Stewards have invited the connections to make any appropriate submissions as to why the Stewards’ preliminary decision should not be confirmed. Managing owner of Chautauqua, Mr Rupert Legh, has informed Stewards that the majority of shareholders in Chautauqua intend to make submissions in response to the Stewards’ preliminary decision. As such, Racing NSW Stewards shall hear those submissions at Racing NSW’s office (Level 11, 51 Druitt Street, Sydney) commencing at 1pm on Tuesday, 28 August 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Apparently the owners....or is it trainer inspired? ...have an aversion to getting Monty...and instead got somebody else... ...who whithpers more quietly...maybe Wodger got the job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chautauqua's 'behaviourist' has just fronted the media to talk about the horse's barrier manners <a href="https://t.co/t4wJh5p6va">pic.twitter.com/t4wJh5p6va</a></p>— Punters.com.au (@Punters) <a href="https://twitter.com/Punters/status/1034239267440971776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Quote Edited August 28, 2018 by Thomass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) https://mobile.twitter.com/Punters/status/1034239267440971776/video/1 Edited August 28, 2018 by Thomass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) C's Barrier Behaviourist! Edited August 28, 2018 by Thomass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) Ban overturned.... https://www.racenet.com.au/news/bizarre-chautauqua-hearing--who-is-mr-q-20180828 After two hours of deliberation, stewards relented, ruling that Chautauqua would be permitted to return to competition under the following circumstances: 1. Chautauqua is not to barrier trial until after 22 September 2018, so as to allow sufficient time for a re-education process, having regard to the evidence of the behaviourist. 2. Chautauqua must barrier trial on two consecutive occasions to the satisfaction of the Stewards, before being permitted to race again. 3. Should Chautauqua not show improvement in commencing from the barriers as compared to its last barrier trial on 25 August 2018 and/or does not trial to the satisfaction of the Stewards again, the gelding’s nominations for all barrier trials and race meetings will be refused under AR50. Edited August 28, 2018 by curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Should bring horse to nz, not gonna win much money, but with the constant gate issues in nz, If his gate opens a few seconds before others, he is on terms. Could probably start 10seconds behind, still win against our horses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Very strange how the 'behaviourist' wants to stay anonymous Maybe it really is Monty...and if he fails he wants to "disavow any knowledge" It really is Mission Impossible though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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