Thomass Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 So Earily got HQ CEO Paul Wilcox on "we don't get much racing at HQ over the winter Pauly...there...what a waste the Steeple course is...there" Pauly...." well these 'athletes' (an Auckland wankers term for race horses) deserve better than to race on that bog...so no we don't believe Auckland should have any winter racing for 3 months" More or less word for word FFS!! What Metro area in the WORLD has no racing for 3 lonnnnng months? With one of the greatest Steeple Chase courses in the entire Worrrrld? Its a joke...after their flash drainage program...and the flash new multi million saddle up display... ...they still want to close down for 3 months! Just sell the Hill off then boys and girls... Multi story lease hold apartments like HK...that's probably the idea Just do it...and admit racing is a secondary though for Aucklanders now... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I thought you were an Auckland Wanker T? Mind you I doubt a social recluse like you would venture outside to the races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 We're not all Queens wankers in the great City bazz But seriously...if Pauly Wilcox...who incedently gives the impression he needs to get down and dirty...do some gardening..or mucking out.... ..is so against his "athletes" being subjected to mud...when many like it... ...and the complete wasteland that is the ELLERSLIE Hill now....4 meetings a year in use... Just sell the thing off...keep Avondale as a training centre.. ..which provides HQ with the horse flesh to race every week in the Queen City Thats the future...not some wild idea of country racing being where it's at...ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopia Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Its interesting T....hardly a mention of Ellerslie in the Messiahs report...obviously a special case? Shirley the common sense way to approach Ellerslie, metropolitan track, largest population by a mile in NZ...would be 1. A synthetic track ( Strathayr ) or an all weather type AS WELL AS the existing grass track ( don't tell me they can't do it) 2. TRAINING FACILITY for trainers who would flock there-esp after one or 2 new tracks ( don't tell me it can't be done, bullshit, as its already an approved activity) plenty of room to construct barns etc and spelling facilities within 45 minutes. You Dorkland yuppies would flock to the track to watch trackwork ( have to schedule it for after 9am so you can finish your latte's) 3. Invite the present Board to feck off, get some younger, more active people involved who can see the bigger picture.. That'll do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 Yes yes and f in yes!!! As Boys and girls get paid would say... Its what Laurie Laxon suggested...and he's a Kranji legend... Ignoring Auckland is like ignoring a white elephant in the room ffs... ..and at you peril If the committee don't want the strathayr though...and refuse to race for 3 months wtf are they doing having the White Elephant Steeple Hill in the Presidents room?? Its a liberty the industry can't afford to have... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMark Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I have to agree with you both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 7 hours ago, Kopia said: Its interesting T....hardly a mention of Ellerslie in the Messiahs report...obviously a special case? Shirley the common sense way to approach Ellerslie, metropolitan track, largest population by a mile in NZ...would be 1. A synthetic track ( Strathayr ) or an all weather type AS WELL AS the existing grass track ( don't tell me they can't do it) 2. TRAINING FACILITY for trainers who would flock there-esp after one or 2 new tracks ( don't tell me it can't be done, bullshit, as its already an approved activity) plenty of room to construct barns etc and spelling facilities within 45 minutes. You Dorkland yuppies would flock to the track to watch trackwork ( have to schedule it for after 9am so you can finish your latte's) 3. Invite the present Board to feck off, get some younger, more active people involved who can see the bigger picture.. That'll do it The main reasons for proposing the retention of each of these 28 racecourses, and the major capital projects required, are set out below. Note that rebuilding a course proper could mean up to 2 years without racing, a reconstruction 12 to 18 months without racing and a renovation 6 to 12 months without racing. The retained venues are: Ellerslie – Venue with 18 race meetings in 2017/18. Best racecourse venue in New Zealand. Excellent location in Auckland. No training. Requires rebuilding of course proper, some general facility improvements and landscaping. Freehold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poisoned Dwarf Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 On 10/09/2018 at 3:22 PM, Kopia said: Its interesting T....hardly a mention of Ellerslie in the Messiahs report...obviously a special case? Shirley the common sense way to approach Ellerslie, metropolitan track, largest population by a mile in NZ...would be 1. A synthetic track ( Strathayr ) or an all weather type AS WELL AS the existing grass track ( don't tell me they can't do it) 2. TRAINING FACILITY for trainers who would flock there-esp after one or 2 new tracks ( don't tell me it can't be done, bullshit, as its already an approved activity) plenty of room to construct barns etc and spelling facilities within 45 minutes. You Dorkland yuppies would flock to the track to watch trackwork ( have to schedule it for after 9am so you can finish your latte's) 3. Invite the present Board to feck off, get some younger, more active people involved who can see the bigger picture.. That'll do it big mistake closing training tracks 1987---should have developed community stables close to motorway, free advertising for the cars puttering along at .0000000131 km per hour, gawking over at frisky horses, bandy-legged little half men and hot stablegirls in joddhies, all growing into a racing culture with the Ellerslie Oaks like the Donny at Randwick, culture spilling over into the Greenlane car dealers and Remuera perverts and they all stay interested. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turny Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 The issue that amazes me with Ellerslie is that they have a ready market of serious gamblers in the city yet they cannot get them on course - what is going wrong - they could and should race 30 days a year with 15 thousand on course each meeting - time they talked to the potential punters and ask them what would bring them on course 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justamugpunter Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 11 hours ago, Turny said: The issue that amazes me with Ellerslie is that they have a ready market of serious gamblers in the city yet they cannot get them on course - what is going wrong - they could and should race 30 days a year with 15 thousand on course each meeting - time they talked to the potential punters and ask them what would bring them on course Perhaps because 'punters' have been shit on for so long they have voted on that treatment by no longer going. They have given E the Big ? Compare the cost of going there and to the tracks in Hong Kong a place where punters still want to go to! Where they are value for the betting they do! Not because they want to pay to get into 'exclusive' parts of the course which are often 'protected' by zealous security! How much to get into the Casino? ? It's interesting to see which meetings 'punters' actually go to now! The ones where they are happy to be paying their 5 or 10 bucks entrance fee, down in the deep south it's now only the Xmas at the Races meetings! These punters couldn't give a shit about the quality of the horses racing! The crowds (or lack of them) at the few meetings left with Black Type races have long gone! Not to be seen. There is No Charge to walk into the Lotto shop! No charge to visit the Casino! It's interesting how now Invercargill don't charge now for their big day Cup Day! All their money is to be made at their XaR event! Talking Otago Racing Club, I see they have got a XaR this year, for them the marketing people claim the entrance fee$ for the likes of Champions Day etc are worth it! Not to the average Joe Punter anymore! Their big day now has this century been Melb Cup Day! The numbers for that meeting having been tracking down big time the last couple of years! Especially so since Mr Plod has said "far to many pissed punters staggering around on course, No to that sort of thing!" ?♂️ Racing has long forgotten that great retail saying 'the customer is always right', hence the chickens have stayed home in the roost!!! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 12 hours ago, Turny said: The issue that amazes me with Ellerslie is that they have a ready market of serious gamblers in the city yet they cannot get them on course - what is going wrong - they could and should race 30 days a year with 15 thousand on course each meeting - time they talked to the potential punters and ask them what would bring them on course Exactly...and a ready market of new migrants who have an oustanding DNA makeup of gambling! The problem is the lack of consistent racing... should be every 2 weeks at least in the Auckland Metro area..weekly ideally The under 35 piss up works well..but that can't be sustained every 2 weeks Its about getting them hooked... 3 months without does not a market grow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 They did their best to get people not to attend, on the days when they used to get big crowds, by closing the infield, stopping picnics and boot parties, and BYO. Used to be legendary, especially on Boxing Day Now they have to tell the camera operators, not to pan wide and show an almost empty racecourse on the big days 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poisoned Dwarf Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 23 hours ago, Thomass said: Exactly...and a ready market of new migrants who have an oustanding DNA makeup of gambling! The problem is the lack of consistent racing... should be every 2 weeks at least in the Auckland Metro area..weekly ideally The under 35 piss up works well..but that can't be sustained every 2 weeks Its about getting them hooked... 3 months without does not a market grow and the poor old Remmers boylahs, 3 months without a racingasm !!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 On 12/09/2018 at 9:24 AM, hesi said: They did their best to get people not to attend, on the days when they used to get big crowds, by closing the infield, stopping picnics and boot parties, and BYO. Used to be legendary, especially on Boxing Day Now they have to tell the camera operators, not to pan wide and show an almost empty racecourse on the big days Was that the ex Booze worker...Chris Chris...what'shisname or Cammo...or did Cammo just rubber stamp that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thomass Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 On 12/09/2018 at 1:05 PM, Poisoned Dwarf said: and the poor old Remmers boylahs, 3 months without a racingasm !!!!!!! The Blue rinses migrated to exotic maldivelike locations over winter wharf... They don't turn up to invest in bogs anyway...they much prefer the other bidet end.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 With the re build at Longchamp...which levelled all of the old 1960 stands..to basically having just the one modern stand... ...and employing a brilliant French architect to give it a genner say qwar Retaining Avondale...after HQ sells off its white elephant Hill... ...and being out West...could build the biggest Burger King in the World... ...use that as a stand during race day.... then make a mint at other times knowing how popular Fast Food is in the community... sorted 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 So T what is the news of the (soon to be failed) Ellerslie track renovation? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 Oh gawd... Youre right.. I feel a disaster coming on... Theyre running some jump outs and mini trials... And hoping to have a meeting before Mel Cup day As you know any newly renovated track has trouble bedding down... It may look grassi and bewdaful...but underneath lies a f in nightmare in the waiting Especially if Theres a bit of moisture around... ..fingers crossed but if the same mobs doing it who did Puke it could be curtains for Mel Cup day Maybe get a 1000 sheeps out there...although the local Reemers lot can't be trusted not to roast them by morning... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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