curious Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Thomass said: As I said...you're totally CLUELESS Have you heard of U Tube...dickhead? Go away..You're just a time waster Do you think punters will be willing to lose more $s if they can access Levin jumpout videos on youtube? Is that what you are saying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, curious said: Do you think punters will be willing to lose more $s if they can access Levin jumpout videos on youtube? Is that what you are saying? No, I'm saying you're a time waster as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 So, you don't think that will generate more revenue for the industry? Sounds helpful then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Curious, sorry to high-jack this thread...but can you tell me what percentage of turnover the supposed ' million per month ' that we were supposedly getting, represented? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Thomass said: No, I'm saying you're a time waster as well... Tommy you need to remember an old Muldoon saying. If you're in a hole, stop digging. You are making yourself look an even bigger cock than you normally do, many of us thought it wasn't possible, but you have reached new heights. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 hour ago, curious said: So, you don't think that will generate more revenue for the industry? Sounds helpful then. Of course it will 130 horses raced at the last jumpouts...that's a Trial day in any Nobody's lingo... These Trainers don't give a shit about the industry... Dazza Weir got caught with paddy pantsdown and got thrashed.... ...so too should these half witted Levin jumpout Trainers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Freda said: Curious, sorry to high-jack this thread...but can you tell me what percentage of turnover the supposed ' million per month ' that we were supposedly getting, represented? 2% for each of the racefields charge and the PoC tax. Seemingly the working group 2015 report has disappeared off the website. This is from the DIA regulatory impact statement. Applying an information use charge of 2 per cent of turnover (as suggested by the Working Group) would result in revenue of $5.7 million per annum for racing bets and $1.1 million for sports (after 5 per cent withholding tax). Applying a consumption charge of 2 per cent of turnover to these figures would return $9.8 million to New Zealand (after 5 per cent withholding tax). The Working Group suggested (based on Infometrics’ projections) that annual growth of 11.5 per cent could be expected over the next few years, which would increase the return to around $16.9 million in 2020. Edited October 3, 2018 by curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 25 minutes ago, Thomass said: Of course it will 130 horses raced at the last jumpouts...that's a Trial day in any Nobody's lingo... These Trainers don't give a shit about the industry... Dazza Weir got caught with paddy pantsdown and got thrashed.... ...so too should these half witted Levin jumpout Trainers Wait...when I ask you "Do you think punters will be willing to lose more $s if they can access Levin jumpout videos on youtube?" you answer "no". When I try to clarify that by asking "So, you don't think that will generate more revenue for the industry?" you answer "of course it will". Perhaps you could decide which it is, and if it's the latter, let us know where the extra punter losses will come from in your view. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 hour ago, curious said: 2% for each of the racefields charge and the PoC tax. Seemingly the working group 2015 report has disappeared off the website. This is from the DIA regulatory impact statement. Applying an information use charge of 2 per cent of turnover (as suggested by the Working Group) would result in revenue of $5.7 million per annum for racing bets and $1.1 million for sports (after 5 per cent withholding tax). Applying a consumption charge of 2 per cent of turnover to these figures would return $9.8 million to New Zealand (after 5 per cent withholding tax). The Working Group suggested (based on Infometrics’ projections) that annual growth of 11.5 per cent could be expected over the next few years, which would increase the return to around $16.9 million in 2020. Great, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Punting off jumpouts maketh a poor man poorer , speaking from experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 On 1/10/2018 at 11:01 AM, Thomass said: The lamest most blatant lie ever... ..it's all about these trainers setting up a PUNT for them and their owners...nothing less No wonder the industry is a basket case then... These trainers have no idea about how they'd cope without the PUNTER.. Running for ribbons is what they'd be doing every week ffs...that's what NZTR need to tell these idiot trainers to get the F off your high horse...stop lying... Did you write both these posts? Is it harness or thoroughbred trainers you are saying are crooked now? On 4/09/2018 at 12:40 PM, Thomass said: Thank the Gods the Thoroughbred Industry wants out of any connection with these crooks... Theyve always been bent and Thoroughbreds have had to accept being lumped together as the 'Racing Industry' This at a time when the 'Racing Industry is under the public spotlight No more..the end is near and good ridence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 10 hours ago, barryb said: Tommy you need to remember an old Muldoon saying. If you're in a hole, stop digging. You are making yourself look an even bigger cock than you normally do, many of us thought it wasn't possible, but you have reached new heights. Don't think Thommo understands the law of holes, but then he doesn't seem to understand the laws of punting, wagering or anything much else other than how to repair the Princess either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 Wtf are yous blokes on? I said "you're a time waster" Any Nody who thinks these Levin jumpout users arn't 'users' ' with no recognition of the importance of Punters.. ...and then blatantly lie when questioned as to the reason why.... ...deserve to be hoisted, embarrassed and PANTSED... Im getting the impression your support is due to the fact they're your mates.... who sent you as an attack dog...but then you suk.... These Levin 'jumpouts' have become huge...Punters deserve to observe a horse's action... ...and formpro Punters deserve Davis's observational expertise to help the NZ Racing Industry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Keep digging then Thommo and with luck the hole will close over. Maybe leave the princess above ground in case someone else could use her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowley Mile Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, curious said: Keep digging then Thommo and with luck the hole will close over. Maybe leave the princess above ground in case someone else could use her. And the bike. pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share Posted October 4, 2018 22 minutes ago, curious said: Keep digging then Thommo and with luck the hole will close over. Maybe leave the princess above ground in case someone else could use her. Why would you think NZ Punters are any different to other jurisdictions... ...in requiring BASIC information in order to invest wisely and without INSIDER TRADING being allowed to go unpunished?? Victoria have seen the f in light...Gob bless them... Now all we need are accurate track ratings...instead of a 50L difference between some H11 tracks...or change of tactic info...amongst other inconsistencies That our punting competition have at the Punters disposal wtf up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I don't think that NZ punters are different. Where did I say that? I asked you how you think broadcasting jumpouts will increase punter losses and therefore industry revenue. I'm waiting for an answer. Meanwhile, you keep digging. Oh... and that's a good idea of RMs. Maybe leave the bike pump as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share Posted October 4, 2018 Oh f me.... ...don't tell me you're thinking more information = a loss making exercise for the industry... I thought being a suit at Uni required more than a 5yo's intelligence quotient... But giving you said "prove Blinkers make a neddy go faster" I dont expect much else from you these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Good reminder. From memory you were never able to answer that question either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share Posted October 4, 2018 Just ask David Hayes...Your bff has helped his training mate shovel shit...maybe ask him Let's get back on f in track though... ...If paying subscribers to tipping lines are receiving 'expert' advice on galloping actions from their 'head' Guru....while viewing Video ...and ignores the NZ Industry because of a lack of information like that...to optimally PUNT... ...oh f...I give up...I'm not explaining 101 punting anymore to dickheads...Go and waste some other Uni lecturer's time with nothing better to do 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxie Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 38 minutes ago, Thomass said: Just ask David Hayes...Your bff has helped his training mate shovel shit...maybe ask him Let's get back on f in track though... ...If paying subscribers to tipping lines are receiving 'expert' advice on galloping actions from their 'head' Guru....while viewing Video ...and ignores the NZ Industry because of a lack of information like that...to optimally PUNT... ...oh f...I give up...I'm not explaining 101 punting anymore to dickheads...Go and waste some other Uni lecturer's time with nothing better to do Have you ever been to the Levin jumpouts Tank? Has the "punting guru"? I've been numerous times and I'd suggest you are wasting your time if you think you are going to get any useful punting info from them being videoed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share Posted October 4, 2018 If 130 neddys are having a gambol for the day box... Punters deserve and require a peeky...ok? If that was secreted in HK...The Won Tons would be poisoned in no time..as a pay back... Dazza Weir now knows it's pointless trying to pull the wool...after he was fined...and then pleaded ignorance... ..my bet he was pulling the wool...screw him...and he was So to should NZTR screw these lying Levin jumpout trainers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Thomass said: If 130 neddys are having a gambol for the day box... Punters deserve and require a peeky...ok? If that was secreted in HK...The Won Tons would be poisoned in no time..as a pay back... Dazza Weir now knows it's pointless trying to pull the wool...after he was fined...and then pleaded ignorance... ..my bet he was pulling the wool...screw him...and he was So to should NZTR screw these lying Levin jumpout trainers... Where do they have the jumpouts in Hong Kong? One or two locations in a closed system. Are you suggesting that every jumpout in NZ is videoed? Waste of time and money. A better idea would be to reduce the number of races and make a policy that says trial form counts for gaining a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Thomass said: Just ask David Hayes...Your bff has helped his training mate shovel shit...maybe ask him What is extremely funny is that Hayes results with blinkers on first time is well below his results of every horse that doesn't have blinkers first time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Thomass said: Oh f me.... ...don't tell me you're thinking more information = a loss making exercise for the industry... I thought being a suit at Uni required more than a 5yo's intelligence quotient... But giving you said "prove Blinkers make a neddy go faster" I dont expect much else from you these days Well you have nothing that supports the idea. And not all information is going to be useful. To make money, the idea has to cause punter(s) to still lose what they would have or more, or gain new punters that lose - of course offset by those punters that stop betting because of the new information. And since there will always be a cost somewhere for the information, it should be done on the basis that it will make a difference to punters and potential punters. Otherwise there is no point - as is the case with so many of your ill thought out ideas. Did you help Messara with his report? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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