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    • Michael House’s wife I believe is a Vet? Still maintain it was a big form reversal from what it had shoen in 42 previous start's snd the Bookies agreed! Grass tracks wouldve helped and going to be interesting go see if it can win again?
    • Brent Weaver has been around for decades, Gamma. Used to live up in Marlborough and campaigned horses in Wellington and Palmerston North, and is a driver as well. Has had some pretty reasonable horses and not an inexperienced trainer. Someone knew the horse was improved due to the shortening but on previous form you just couldnt have it, although grass tracks are a leveller!
    • i  agree with gamm on this one. i do accept what brodie has said, in that yesterday there was an improvement in the performance of The mandelorian, on past efforts,but i don't think it was as significant as suggested. i have my own way of doing the form  and i had The mandelorian rated to run 7th of the 13 starters ,based on its form from the weaver stable. I had thought logan rock had the superior form for that race ,but it underperformed a tad and  you could also tell with 600m to run that r close,logan rocks driver, had simply left his run far too late, as the race had developed into a sprint home. Horses never ever come from too far back on a sprint home on a fast grass track.They just never do. so the race evolved in a way where you had to be in the first 4 turning in to be a chance and the mandelorian had received the ideal 1/1 sit early and was still in that ideal position when the sprint went on, due to the other drivers not making moves. so what i'm saying is the way the race played out was in the mandelorains favour. i've actually followed the manderlorain a bit and i have formed the opinion he's not the toughest mentally and doesn't have the greatest self belief in his own ablity to win. And you get that from horses who race a lot and only win occassionally or never quite do. I think that was again evident yesterday,it was like he went up to win the race and was going well enough to win by half a length,but he simply took longer to get to the front because the horse was as surprised as anyone that he may have been going to win and was having a think instead of being totally focussed on winning. W house just sort of kidded to him,sort of as if to say to him,go on son,you can do it,without ever resorting to much whip use. as to the m house stable improving horses. Yes they do improve horses and it doesn't take long before they can do that.The amount they improve their horses can be around 5 lengths in my opinion. My theory on how they do that is they work them a bit harder and a bit differently ,where they vary their work to switch them on a bit more when they first get them.I also think sometimes they get the vet to treat their horses in a way that helps any slight soreness issues or something,or they do it themselves. Doesn't m house have shares in a vet clinic,so wouldn't he be able to have his  horses treated much cheaper than other trainers.I'm only guessing,but thats my informed guess.. But i'm realistic enough to realise people can see they improve horses and will wonder how they do it.It thinks its not over complicated,they've just worked out what works for them.I don't think they've ever tried to gain any unfair advantage the way one or two stables used to in the past.I would be nice if there were more stables like the houses..  The house horses have never had the run forever look and they get tired when they should if they have a hard run. so i don't think the mandelorians run was any big deal myself. I think the bookies shouldn't have had the mandelorian at 41's given the overall form of the horses in that race and the fact it was having its first start from the house barn.Really it should have opened around $20. Star on the rocks was an amazing opening price of $41. it was backed into $12. Personally i wasn't betting yesterday,but was just amazed at the price the bookeis  opened that horse,given its recent form. ITs shown its very fast but seems to struggle a bit getting around tracks with tighter bends.But to open at $41 was an early christmas gift to the punters who got on as its price tumbled in .
    • A lawsuit filed in a Kentucky court Wednesday over a disputed Standardbred auction figures to be closely watched by the Thoroughbred industry because of allegations that a Lexington Selected Yearling Sales Company (LSYS) auctioneer belatedly realized he had dropped the hammer on a $15,000 sale without respecting a $45,000 reserve price that should have been in effect. According to the civil complaint initiated by the New Jersey-based Val D'Or Farms, which thought it had rightfully purchased the filly, named Philly's Sting, for $15,000 via proxy bid, the auctioneer purportedly tried to cover his alleged mistake by reopening the bidding on the premise that there had actually been a tie bid. The auctioneer then commenced to get the price up to just under the reserve, declaring the yearling sold to a different buyer. “Upon information and belief, there was no other tie bidder, just an illusory bid in an effort to protect the reserve,” stated the lawsuit filed Dec. 10 in Fayette Circuit Court. The lawsuit included a link to a video of the Oct. 1, 2025, auction of Hip 572. It shows Philly's Sting in the sales ring for 90 seconds before her bidding stalls at $15,000. After the auctioneer hammers the podium and declares, “All done! In the back, $15,000!” Philly's Sting is led out of the ring. While the next sales prospect, Hip 573, is being shown and announced, the auctioneer appears to be examining paperwork in front of him. After 15 seconds, he then says, “Hold on a sec. Say what? You thought you were in back there? No. Nope. You weren't. I'm sorry.” Speaking over an unidentified raised voice protesting from the bidding gallery, the auctioneer then says, “All right, we have to open it back up between those bidders.” Over the next 20 seconds, the bidding on Philly's Sting escalated to $27,000. At that point, seemingly in an effort to clarify which yearling was actually being auctioned–the one who had already been led out of the ring or the one being shown in it–the auctioneer says, “This is 572! Just hold this [other] horse over to the side, keep him still.” As the bidding crested $35,000 and one unseen participant appeared to be vacillating, the auctioneer says, “I'll give you all the time you need. That was my mistake.” Another minute later, the hammer fell for good on Philly's Sting at $44,000. According to the lawsuit, “neither the Auctioneer, nor LSYS, nor anyone acting on their behalf or control, including spotters, observed, received, and acknowledged a tie bid during and/or prior to the fall of the Hammer, [and] the Auctioneer had no right to and improperly, negligently, intentionally, and/or recklessly reopen the bidding on Philly's Sting.” The allegations in the Dec. 10 lawsuit represent only one side of this story. TDN learned of the filing of the lawsuit after 6 p.m. Eastern time on Wednesday, and could not reach anyone at the Kentucky offices of LSYS at that hour. The breeder of Philly's Sting (Hot Lead Stables) and the consignor (Cameo Hills Farm) are also listed as defendants. All of those defendants will have their chance to answer the complaint or to try and dismiss it in subsequent court filings. The lawsuit seeks a judgment against each defendant mandating the acceptance of the $15,000 payment and the delivery of Philly's Sting to the plaintiff. Drew Mollica is one of the attorneys on the legal team for Val D'Or, whose principal, Martin Granoff, co-bred and co-owned the pacer Perfect Sting (the undefeated Dan Patch Award winner at two and Breeders Crown champion at both two and three), who is the sire of Philly's Sting. “Marty Granoff is one of the most prominent, respected owners in the business,” Mollica said. “And he really feels violated, he really does. “The rules are explicit. Once the hammer drops, you own the horse,” Mollica continued. “They missed the reserve. Owning horses is hard enough. Buying horses at auction is hard enough. You shouldn't have to fight the auction company, too. “[Granoff] campaigned the sire. He's an experienced buyer. He knows the rules. It's unequivocal in Mr. Granoff's mind, and he wants this settled not only for him, but for everybody who buys horses at auction,” Mollica said. The post Suit Alleges Standardbred Auctioneer Failed to Notice $45K Reserve, Then Reopened Bidding after Hammer Fell at $15K appeared first on TDN | Thoroughbred Daily News | Horse Racing News, Results and Video | Thoroughbred Breeding and Auctions. View the full article
    • With the North American Thoroughbred foal crop continuing to contract, numerous panelists speaking Dec. 10 at the Global Symposium on Racing pointed to regional, multi-state cooperation to help stabilize breeding in states with faltering numbers.View the full article
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