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Cannot understand it. How do you sell off an asset . THAT IS NEEDED by the Participants of that industry?. and still be in debt anyway. There are around 20 something Trainers that regularly use the Franklin track . well over 200 horses. The Auckland trotting will Cease to exist very quickly with our this facility. Steven Reid already gone Canterbury. What a beautiful complex. should be up-graded into a Full time racing facility. If they sold it for 30-40 $million they're still 60 million in debt. ????? goodness me. how does that fix anything??. Get Kevin Seymour involved? . Very happy with New Zealand after LEAP TO FAME's big win. He's a multi Millionaire property developer and could help the situation no end. He saved Albion Park . get some proper advice and solutions. -
The accounts of the actions giving rise to the charges in both cases, were extremely distressing to me. I see it listed the breeding of the horses that were subjects of the charges. As a breeder & owner I can only imagine how it would have felt to recognise my horse amongst those animals - distress compounded with guilt for sending them into the lion's den to be treated like that. I urge those who bear witness to blatant ill-treatment and cruelty to have the courage to speak up, challenge & intervene. That is the only way we can rid the industry of inhumane practitioners. It's also the way to help those who need more education & support to manage their behavior & build their skills, to ensure they don't take that path. I acknowledge that there is often a power imbalance & that speaking up can be at considerable personal cost, especially when employees are part of the picture. For those who have stood up for those who cannot speak for themselves - the horses - I applaud you. I acknowledge the right of the accused parties to put their case & defend the charges. But in so doing, their defence & upholding of patently cruel and inhumane practices speaks volumes - & is almost as distressing as the actions themselves. Because it provides little to no hope of change or redemption. In my opinion it also vindicates the judicial body imposing the stiffest of penalties, including lifetime bans. While it's no small matter to lose the means of earning one's chosen living - there are other means to pay the bills. And perhaps some should reflect & offer thanks they were answering only to the industry body & not additionally to the District Court on criminal charges. From what was reported, & albeit the jurisdictions are held to different standards of proof, it would seem the threshold for such charges would have been met. Regards, Jess -
On the rib website they have the recent decsion as to the costs, bruce negus has to pay,in relation a positive he had for one of his horses . the positive occured 7 years ago. Yes,thats right,7 years. He was found guilty of being in control of a horse who returned a positive, to a man made synthetic compound that does what testosterone does. anyways,he was fined $5300,but heres the kicker,mr negus has to pay costs of $105,000. who knows what he would have paid for his own legal fees on top of that. now ,i read the decision,but wish i had read War and Peace instead, as it went on and on . Obviously over 7 years ,evidence was gathered ,witness briefs obtained and scrutinised,research done,countless lawyer work undertaken,etc ,etc ,etc, over those years..The actual hearing took 4 days when they finally got around to it. Now my very brief summary of the decision obviously is just that, brief. But it seems mr negus had 2 horses tested in "out of competition testing" in 2017. analysis of the blood taken showed one horse was positive to a synthetic steroid.The other horse had very small traces,but not worth pursuing due to the low levels. now,apparently the detectable levels in blood last about 8 weeks although they quickly reduce in that time frame. So,seems pretty straight forward you would think. but no it wasn't and because of the circumstances mr negus obviously thought he had a defence. His defence seemed to be based partly on the reducing levels in the subsequent tests,but that was rejected as a defence as the panel agreed on the balance of probabilities,with what the rib experts said,which was,thats what happens over time. e.g. test it 7 days after the sample is drawn from the horse,and the level will be...,test the reserve sample...a couple of weeks later and the level will be much lower. Thing is,because this is the case,those in charge made the decision to send the reserve sample away for testing to be sure(,given detectable levels reduce that quick),whereas normally that is only done at the request of the person who is being charged. i.e. mr negus. Mr negus when originally interviewed by the rib was obviously a bit shocked and actually said at that point he wasn't going to get the reserve sample tested,but then thought about it a bit more,only to find it had already been done without his prior knowledge. So the defence believed that was one of the grounds for defence. seemingly a procedural defence. another was hair samples showed nothing. But turned out experts said thats not unusual for that synthetic compound. Also clearly there were several other procedural issues that the defence raised and sounds like they did score many points in that respect. Every little thing seemed to have been gone over with a fine tooth comb. as was mr negus's rites to do so. thats a really short summary of something very complicated. but at the end of the day,the panel who heard the case found,mr negus was the person in charge of the horse. They don't have to prove he injected the horse himself.. They never do,as thats almost impossible unless they catch someone in the act. The $105,000 costs awarded against negus were 50% of the costs,normally they award 60 %. but gee,what a financial hit. -
Yep here's hoping. More important than ever that this turns out to be a good, sound track - with all the recent abandonments and tracks undergoing renovation. I understand there's been a bit of rain there in the last few days - hopefully the trials will still go ahead. I can imagine there's a reluctance to risk damaging the surface from trials - but equally it's probably important that the surface undergoes that "test" prior to the big inaugural race-day later in the month. All the best to the team - it will be especially good for local owners to have their home track back in action. Jess
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Tote pool for pacers race last night was just over 20, trotters strangely just over 21, Westport cup was 20, Auckland cup 23, one would imagine the exotics were more popular but with all the promos its probably the best they can do, for Cambridge, many of the supporting races were pretty average as any other friday, there is only so much money to go around but I suspect if these dates were at Addington turnover would be better, Cambridge and Auckland probably not everyone's favourite place to bet or watch harness racing but it is what it is. I thought the trotters race was a anti climax.
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