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so the headline currently on the hrnz website is confidence returns,largest breeding increase in 16 years. hey,i'm not saying its not a good thing numbers are slightly up,but what is obvious is HRNZ are overplaying how significant the progress is. They could have run a headline that said breeding numbers 2nd lowest in history and that would have been just as true. Peden and steele talk about stabalisation of breeding numbers being so important and i get that,but its also very obvious that there had to be a point where numbers hit rock bottom. But anyone who thinks the numbers are good,as indicated by the headline,must be kidding themselves. all that story on hrnz is,is positive spin. i'm not saying i don't get why they have run that story,its just they have again way oversold it. lets remember HRNZ are throwing money around like theres no tomorrow and that includes substanial money being used to incentivise breeding. personally i just don't get why they can't see big holes in how they are dealing with the industry,including breeding incentives. Hrnz should be focusing on creating an environment where breeders have the confidence to continue breeding without the need for hrnz subsidising. And what happens if and when they can no longer keep stake levels at their current level because they have spent all the money trying to give an impression things are better than they really are. And i note they said the sires $5000 or under was the main reason the breeding number rose. Up by 231 on the previous year. But of course that also meant the sires over $5000 were down by 132. now that harness 5000 does seem to have worked for hrnz. I have no idea why anyone with much sense would breed to a harness 5000 on the basis of that it will be eligible for a one off race once a year worth $60,000. But people seem to think like that. My guess is yes there may be that one race they could aim to start in 4 years time but while they realistically have a very small chance of starting in may still be the same,every other race they are running in throughout the year could and probably will be less than what the current stakes are because hrnz is overspending to create that false impression. . As i said one other time,seeing more breed because of the harness 5000 is like watching the people silly enough to breed to nz stallions because hrnz said they would be running for bonuses in years to come,which of course they cancelled beofre anyone got that chance who had bred. But hey,hrnz seem to have sold people on that,so that was a win for hrnz. -
Gamma, it's obvious a discussion (I was going to say argument but refrained) with you about this is futile. Only the future will tell who was right or wrong. My understanding is that when the Entain deal was signed, it was conditional on NZ introducing Geo-blocking (which Australia have had for years).The idea/thinking was that that would create a large boost in wagering (I seem to recall a figure of $40m being talked about) to replace for the money that Entain is putting in now. Given that HRNZ have just announced that turnovers are actually down on a reduced turnover of last year, and the year before that etc., that seems to have been proven to be pie in the sky. As I've said before, we don't have generous State Governments of billionaires to help...ALL, I repeat, ALL our money comes from wagering, hence my comments on Slot Racing, which, as does Cup Week almost every year, run at a substantial loss.
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It's not the Entain money that will 'Stop' the industry . They are the one's propping it up with spare back pocket cash at the moment. NZ and Australia. blatant mismanagement is JUST Not Correct. they're helping out in hour of need. And as The Galah correctly says , SPortsBetting is the go these days for them , and horse racing is just like a side dessert if you like , that they don't really need. It's a TWILIGHT industry . NZ especially has TWILIGHT participants. I can't believe Ricky May coming back again , nor Barry Purdon the other day. Dr Chin . really ? who's gunna lose money betting on them ? not you or I. didn't get enough youngsters involved is the HUUUGEE knife in the back for NZ harness. I agree Fully with you Brodster that the mile racing and smaller field's are quite boring. commonly run in Aus every day of the week. and you have advocating keeping them to a minimum in NZ as a spectacle or a Betting prospect. NZ has a GREAT VAriety of RACES put on by HRNZ 9cmpared to Aus) and Caters for All their participants. THE PARTICIPANTS are just as Important as the Punters to keep it going. No Participants = No Racing = You're washed Up. ENTAIN and HRNZ are handling it to keep it going. And you know this. you're just being mean really not appreciating the efforts . we'll lose heaps on the Interdominion but you still need these Pinnalcle events to keep people like Seymour interested ( as well as all the 5 day to day meetings we run each and every week. HRNZ does it better than all our OZ states , except NSW HR which look after their participants magnificently across the board and hopefully at a profit. For your tiny HRNZ industry the results achieved are Just amazing really. fancy people grizzling they put in 200-300 thousand ( a pittance to Entain) to run the feature Slot TROT of Australasia? , of the world nearly? . with some of the world's best trotters EVER SEEN , yet this thread says Call it off ?????????????????. I give up mate. It's like calling off the Olympics 100m because BOLT was too fast for them . 🤣😆. forget the spectacle 😉
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