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yes hrnz thinking has been,,because they're aren't many 2 year olds around to race, they need to encourage more and to achieve that the answer has been large bonuses,increased stakes and this year pay 90 of them $5000 just to start,even if they run a tailed off last. thats how hrnz think. its consistent with their thinking when it comes to north island harness racing. Up there they don't have enouigh horses to fill the fields, so HRNZ think the answer to that is more races. so theres that consistency in hrnz policy,that is ,the less horses you have available,the more racing you put on for them and the more you give them higher stakes to aim at. now clearly anyone can see that has not been working whatsoever and never made any sense in the first place,but they get points for consistency,even if its stupid. then hrnz's answer to the ATC financial worries is,don't worry,keep going as you are,because we've got your back and we will throw a few million into your financail hole,because we believe the population of auckland is going to all of a sudden have a change of heart and start supporting the harness product in auckland.And hrnz will budget $20m to build a training complex on a property that they don't even own. then HRNZ has said to cambridge,well,we know your in deep shit financially,but what does impress us is you only owe hrnz about 1.2-1.5 m,now thats pretty dam good when we compare you to ATC..So look,we know the slot races you ran added significantly to your debt,so hey,we have a solution to that. Lets have HRNZ run those slot races and take the financial hit,that way the good aussie horses can come and take even more nz harness indutsry money back to australia for their billionaire owners.. again pretty consistent thinking by hrnz. then there was nz sires bonuses. What they did there was say to people,breed to a nz sire and we will pay you bonuses when they race and win in years to come.But ,thers a catch,we may cancel those bonuses before you ever race.For unknown reasons,many seemed silly enough to think they may be getting a bonus for their foals sired by nz sires in the future,but no they wont,as very predictably, hrnz cancelled those. But your right brodie,not much point saying the same thing repeatedly as even we get tired of reading our own posts. as to the 2 year old race programmed for southalnd this week.My guess was they would get zero nominations. I based that on it appears they have no qualified 2 year old in southland yet. and the $12,000 stake.at addington. Points to hrnz at least showing some common sense by reducing the stake by 20% due to the small number of starters. But even a $12,000 stake seems ridiculous given it will generate no turnover whatsoever. It will be interesting to see whether the 20% is smoke and mirrors. In other words, will they be reducing the winning stakes by 20%,or is the 20% reduction just what would have come off anyway,due to not haveing any also rans to pay staring money. In other words ,unless they reduce the winning stakes,then they really are just playing with people. -
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By Chief Stipe · Posted
Of course you no who they are. You three fed off each when they deigned to post here. Quite frankly they are nothing more than bitter and twisted old timers who love to pontoficate amd gossip about everything. So @Huey don't pretend to not know who they are. As for my industry view I assure in comparison to your constant negativity my industry views are far from distorted. However I'd love to know what you think they say is "informed". -
Oh, dont tell me someones getting stuck into the Tangerine stable… that would peeve off Chief. Funny you mention that, saw Ellis on TV saying how good he was at the sales…. been pretty disappointing that stable lately…. a few other stables going fantastic, so i am glad 💵 getting shared around…. Hopefully this post doesn’t get me on the naughty list again😙 -
I dont know either of them personally, but from what they post they both seem to be two of the better informed posters on that other site and thus often talk a lot of sense. Are you sure you're not letting your industry delusion (particularly your Tangerine one) distort your view/ opinion on matters?
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