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brodie,nowornever,gamma,you all make very good points that i i wouldn't argue against. i believe the questioning that gets mentioned in canterbury stipes reports,even if it is after the fact and often involves what some think may be obvious answers ,is still very important as the sport needs ot be giving that perception of oversight,for the publics perspective that everything is above board. you also see canterbury stipes question drivers tactics,especially when it comes to a lack of vigour in a finish or not making obvious moves.Now i note that never gets criticised on this forum and i think that is because everyone likes to see that type of oversight. if we go back to that old minefield,operation inca,i always argued and even highlighted some of the races involved before operation inca ever became public knowledge,,and that the stipes oversight was lacking.Some of the people involved appeared to have formed the opinion that they could take advantage of that lack of oversight.Now,i don't mean my favorite driver,b orange,i never saw him do anything wrong,but some of those others should have been getting asked qustions on driving tactics and horse performances.Had that been happening properly,no operation inca. so what i'm saying is,the perception as far as integrity is very,very important and the form turnaround questioning is just part of how that perception is put out there to the public and to trainers and drivers. The north isalnd stipes will never get any criticism for asking possible form turnarounds because they never ask the question and on the rare occassions you see something obviously dodgy up there,and it does happen,they just put the caps back on the binoculars and continue watching the races that way. -
You could question every driver , every race about their tactics/ improvement or whatever. In the end there is just one winner. we have very few problems around Australia as the field size is a sensible 9-10 in every state , therefore they all get a chance in a race and you can't 'cover up' 'drive quiet' or 'keep for next time' like they do in the silly 12- 14 horse races of yesteryear. Where it's VERY easy to get your horse beat. Stewards in Aus will just look for one of Brodies big bet moves , and assess whether there were accomplices in helping the punted horse land the prize. Doesn't happen very often thankfully , there were some in country Victoria a while back with family members 'helping each other' out. and There was a DQed former leading trainer did want to put $3000 on a horse a few years ago here in Queensland, which resulted in the leading Trainer Vicki Rasmussen (Vicki never recovered and just races 2 horses she owns herself now after that year out) and leading driver Shane Graham. getting very long DQ's . People wanting to put Big bets on = are nothing but trouble lol 😆🤣 -
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Based on historical records, the largest crowd ever recorded at the Ellerslie racecourse appears to be **45,000 people**, who attended the Auckland Cup race on Boxing Day in 1944 . For a clearer picture, here is a summary of some of the biggest crowds at Ellerslie across different eras: | Date | Event | Attendance | Notes | | :--- | :--- | :--- | :--- | | **Boxing Day 1944** | Auckland Cup | **45,000** | This is the highest number found in the search results, cited as a record at the time . | | **c. 1911** | Boxing Day Races | 30,000 - 35,000 | A large crowd for the early 20th century, considered a record at the time . | | **June 1945** | Winter Meeting | 39,000 | Described as a record for a winter meeting in New Zealand . | | **December 2020** | SkyCity Boxing Day Races | 14,000+ | Called a "modern-day record" and the biggest crowd in almost 12 years . | It is important to note that while the 45,000 figure from 1944 is the highest found, it is very likely a record for the course's long history. Modern-day crowds, while still very large, are often not directly comparable to these historical peaks due to different event structures, seating capacities, and entertainment options. For example, one article noted that close to 25,000 were expected for a recent Boxing Day event, described as the largest in 155 years at that time . -
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C R K Stable and Grandview Equine's Baeza (McKinzie), winner of the GI Pennsylvania Derby and third in both the Kentucky Derby and Belmont Stakes last season, will be transferred to Hall of Fame trainer Bill Mott, according to the DRF Monday. The colt was previously trained by John Shirreffs, who passed away last week. “The most important thing is the quality of Bill Mott, the kind of person that Robert Clay and myself relate to,” Lee Searing told DRF. “John Shirreffs would probably have liked that pick.” Baeza, who had been based a Santa Anita with trainer Peter Eurton following Shirreffs's death, worked a half-mile on Sunday. Under rider Amy Vasko, he negotiated a half-mile in :48.80. The half-brother to Kentucky Derby winner Mage and Belmont hero Dornoch is expected to arrive at Mott's Payson Park training base on Thursday. While Mott also trains Horse of the Year and champion 3-year-old colt Sovereignty, Searing is confident the colts can remain apart, albeit for a while. “I think there are many races we can keep them separate,” he told DRF. “Everyone wants to get to the Breeders' Cup.” While Searing's horses will reportedly remain with Eurton, including GSW Westwood (Authentic), several of Shirreffs' other trainees have gone sent to other trainers including Bob Hess Jr. and Leonard Powell. The post Grade I Winner Baeza to Mott appeared first on TDN | Thoroughbred Daily News | Horse Racing News, Results and Video | Thoroughbred Breeding and Auctions. View the full article -
By Murray Fish · Posted
General Admission $35pp first release | $65pp on the day | Under 15s free | Senior citizen rates apply at the gate on the day (50% off the advertised ‘on the day’ price). At what number of punters would it take for them to put up the HOUSE FULL sign?
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