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In case you didn't realise I'd just like to point out to you that @Spatchcock wasn't asking YOU the question.

When are you going to post something constructive or have you taken up being a permanent troll?

You are illiterate. Well they haven't have they as there are terms that must be met first. I would say the value of Storm Boy is considerably less than $50m now. Now the bind for the owners is do they geld him or not or try and get some decent Grp level form.

You said he was the first if not one of the first. Seems you have some doubts. I imagine having a drink with you at Trentham was a highlight of his trip...NOT! So answer the question - how do we work out which first time blinkered horse out of multiple first time blinkered horses will win? Actually don't bother because you don't know and if you do the basis of your selection ISN'T the application of blinkers.

@Thomass Hayes didn't invent blinkers nor was he the first to use them in OZ. You still haven't told us how you select which one out of four horses that are first time blinkered?

Correct. His first up this latest campaign didn't look that promising.

I said it didn't tick ALL the boxes. Are you illiterate? I think Coolmore might have gone too early. It was a Grp 2. The Skyline Stakes. You aren't a detail person are you.

That's obviously an option but not a reason. So I gather you haven't done any cogent in-depth analysis. I would say the Magic Millions Race isn't a high priority as it doesn't tick all the boxes for making a stallion nor necessarily what's best for the horse.

Why?

And @Huey will be pissed too.

Oh OK it wasn't Colin it was Uncle Nick the plate thrower.

But not all of Colin Hayes horses won with them. Although doubtful he introduced them to OZ.

Yep and you'll have something else to be negative about one way or another. What is your beef with TA? It seems personal.

Would you like me to post all the press articles about Savaglee and the comments from Williams? Pam Gerard was at Te Akau for 5 years from 2011 to 2016.

You're a hypocrite.

Not to mention of course that the top NZ colt, a NZ bred, is sidestepping the big NZ Sweepstake and Slot races and aiming for an Ozzie Grp 1. Trained of course by an ex-Te Akau trainer who is doing very well in her own right.

The winner isn't eligible for the KM. I'm guessing @Huey likes that. Now if the OZ bred gets black type across the ditch doesn't that raise the value of the second placed filly? The irony of course which escapes @Huey is the second horse was Ozzie bred too except it just happened to be sold at Karaka.

Don't play a game of tautology. The inference is it beat nothing therefore you are belittling its performance. I've just answered the question regarding how it is good for NZ breeding. If a NZ colt can't beat or even get near an OZ bred colt at Pukekohe then it isn't the best of the breed is it? Take the OZ bred out and you have a NZ colt with black type. You'd like that wouldn't you? So I guess you have changed your view now about the Karaka Sweepstake races and the new Ellerslie sweepstake and slot races? Afterall the two best fillies racing in NZ are not eligible for them. I suppose that can be blamed on the Waikato mafia?

Give the horse a chance. For your information if you want to make a Stallion then yes you need some Ozzie black type to be commercial. However that hasn't stopped some stallions having no form at all being commercially successuful. It is also good for NZ breeding because these horses set a standard i.e. a form of natural selection. If your NZ bred colt can't foot it with any other colt under NZ conditions then arguably it isn't going to the breeding barn unless it is exceptionally well bred.

As opposed to knocking the trainer and bellittling an obviously talented well bred colt? For your info there isn't any Club Fanboy - unless you call someone who appreciates a good type and conformation, well bred and well trained horse a Fanboy. Do you get any enjoyment from watching racing?

You just did belittle it AGAIN!

Can you explain what you are meaning by this nonsensical statement? Does that include NZ Bred Karaka sales toppers? If NZ breeders hadn't brought in overseas blood then wouldn't be any NZ breeding or racing industry. You are promoting mediocrity for NZ Racing which is a slipperly slope to extinction. Ironically you can't see that the Sweepstake and Slot races are actually doing that very thing.

WHAT IS THE GARBAGE? A talented two year old wins a race. How is that garbage? They are expensive because they are well bred and the market has determined the price. Are you suggesting all Ozzie breds should be banned from competing in NZ 2 yr old races because the NZ "battler" can't compete? I guess you are happy with the NZ Kiwi slot race where only NZ bred horses can compete. Who does that help? When many of the horses running in OZ at elite level are NZ bred!! You are belittling NZ trainers by calling them battlers. When was the last time YOU owned and raced a horse? Successfully.

It won three trials prior to its race day start and was never out of third gear in any of them. @Huey is suggesting that Te Akau should place the horse somewhere to get beaten rather than collecting black type and stakemoney for its owners in NZ where those owners reside. @Huey would then criticise Te Akau for buying a dud if it got beaten. Lets face it you can't win with @Huey. Hell the winner of the 1000 Guineas 2024 won its maiden race at Taiherenikau as a two year old which was probably the making of the horse. Yeah na according to @Huey it probably should have started at Randwick first up against one of Gai Waterhouse's wound up youngsters!

How was it exorbitantly expensive? The market determined the price. As for the hype you don't seem to buy into any hype. Do you have a good news story to post about a local battler?