Chief Stipe

Obviously a number of systems failures. The ultimate one being the RIB Raceday Stewards didn't notice.

Hardly a secret. Was clearly evident in the annual accounts year on year. The trajectory would have improved as ENTAIN was in a position to negotiate out of the financially crippling contracts that TABNZ was entered into. One of those was the betting system which ENTAIN already owned. Of course we no longer have full visibility of the accounts or turnover with ENTAIN being a private company. Overall though ENTAIN is recovering strongly this year - the question is do they drop the NZ business. The reason they may not is that once the five years is up they enter into a profit sharing arrangement. In that scenario it isn't inconceivable that the cash available for stakes will drop substantially.

Well ENTAIN is 74th on the FTSE 100 and a market capitalisation of €6billion.

Do you live in a bubble? The plan to ban has been on the agenda for over a decade. I can't be bothered listing the complete timeline BEFORE ENTAIN pitched up. ENTAIN didn't ask for it is was always on the table. What was up for negotiation was how much ENTAIN would pay for it I suggest you ditch your anti-ENTAIN bias and buy some shares.

FFS they actually got through 7 races before the abandonment. @Newmarket would have cancelled the day before with his prescient knowledge of what was going to happen...after race 7. Report 2025-07-03 Ashburton.pdf

Actually starting would be the first action!

Actually @Newmarket instead of pissing around I'll make it easier for you. 2015 is earlier than 2023 - is it not? See attachment. However it was floated before then. Working Group - Final Report October 2015.pdf

Why would I bother when everyone knows it as a fact. Not our fault you are behind. Um...clue...Racefields legislation.

Well before then. But I guess you aren't a detail person.

Not stressed at all. I find you amusing but not very humorous.

I hear what you are saying. You start getting biased because of allegiances or being influenced by the weight of what is posted from one type of opinion. @curious sticks to the numbers.

Does it matter who employs them? They are young, enthusiastic and employed in the industry. That's what we need!!!

I'm not "in love" with any particular stable however I post facts and applaud excellence.

I'm surprised you are still breathing.

Yep I'm saying otherwise. Stopping punters overseas was on the agenda a long time before ENTAIN came along. I guess detail isn't your speciality.

I'd say he's had more opportunities than you regardless.

Can you explain how it was "ENTAIN'S decison"?

I've got my eye on one that beat him twice.

Like that Loo. Where do you buy them?

FFS does it matter? If you are a Trainer don't you have bigger issues to focus on? DO YOU AGREE OR NOT AGREE THAT SAM BERGERSON DESERVES HIS AWARD? IF NOT WHY NOT?

I'm over this whining. Why isn't everyone on the phone telling NZTR what they want? Besides the weather being absolute shyte (worse to come which is normal) can't all these trainers speak to each other and TELL NZTR what they want? Of that doesn’t happen then post all the correspondence online and have a real gripe. Personally I'm really really over Trainers and Owners that don't organise themselves and nail the decision makers. Reminds me of a body corporate - the all have the same problem but can't agree on how to fix it!

Why just single out "Southern Trainers"? Been any number of abandonments at BIG meetings in the North Island this season. Hawkes Bay and Te Rapa come to mind. For reasons not directly related to weather either!

Really? Do you want social media to vote on ANYTHING? I think the awards are well deserved. Take for instance Sam Bergerson. He had to work double this year as Mark Walker was often in OZ setting up the Cranbourne stable. A challenging period and as expected a slight drop in performance BUT still over $9m in stakes and top of the premiership with a pretty decent strike rate of 6.35.

I guess if you fund it you can judge it. Shame in a way that these initiatives aren't led by TABNZ or NZTR and have a wider voting BUT it is a positive. Perhaps a bit less in top end stakes should fund it?

No doubt. Probably a dietician. I've been lucky to visit Te Akau Stud and spend a few hours there. Karyn and David are really quite down to earth and genuine people. The environment out there would be just perfect to make a comeback from. Separate house, good meals, fully equipped gym, all the future spring horse talent has been spelling out there so can been seen each day - tempting for any horseman. Basically rehab on steroids (is that an oxymoron?).