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He said on Trackside they got half their money back. Didn't they also take a combo offer Orchestral Top 6 with something else? I guess the way it's written it seems to be $1.50.

She's the President. Shri Narendra Modi the Prime Minister is just as bad as the rest of your great group! He sleeps with the Russians.

I was referring to the previous dude as an indication of how stuffed Brazil is. The current one is worse - Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/31/luiz-inacio-lula-da-silva-brazil-presidency-election-profile

Tell us more.

Brazil President Jair Bolsonaro - corrupt. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/30/jair-bolsonaro-brazil-property-payments-cash-allegations South Africa's President Cyril Ramaphosa - corrupt. Look up the investigations into his business dealings. India - Droupadi Murmu - probably the best of a motley crew. I note you omit to mention Russia and China and some of those dodgie Arab states. Geez yet another subject your profess to know something about yet blinded by the red haze.

What else would you spend thousands on vet bills for?

Misunderstanding of the rule and miscommunication. Why attempt to cheat for something that is easily detectable? That said they could have sought permission to use the drug in question on legitimate therapeutic grounds.

That's what I thought but with the added thought that the Jockeys left to ride at Wellington...well they're not the most capable!

Bring back Foxton.

I tell you another course that shouldn't be raced on for a while and that's Pukekohe. I'm wary of how New Pymouth plays next weekend as well. Meanwhile watching them coming from anywhere on The Valley StrathAyr.

It's been off for years. A friend had a horse race in the Wellesley - the shute was as hard as. The horse is now in the paddock.

Bollocks. A hodge podge of countries led by dictators and despots with appalling human rights records. Again blinded by ideology.

The cobalt issue has been done to death but I guess some just keep being bitter about it. Many millions spent in OZ on the issue and most of the outcomes were in favour of the charged. Some just walked away rather than spend their life savings in righting a wrong. As for the trough - the cows and the horses weren't in the paddock at the same time. But eh the knockers don't give a shyte about detail.

None of them deliberate.

I doubt it...ramble and spout ideology perhaps but not a coherent debate based on fact.

That's why they have a military presence in Tonga and the Solomon's?

Well there you go we agree.

The big stables don't bother with such horses either and flick them off. Who in their right mind would persevere with an average unsound gelding? There is also a lot the bigger stables do that don't require expensive vet bills. A lot of it is to prevent such bills. @jess infers there is some special advantage for some and that the playing field is uneven. The big stables got there through hard work. Where is the evidence that they were or are treated differently? I realise some people would prefer to see 6 races of average horses trained by battlers tonight instead of 6 quality fields of well bred horses trained to the minute on a fantastic new track ridden by the best jockeys on offer in Australasia.

So what do you propose? Have a level playing field by cutting down the tall poppies? That would be the path to an empty paddock. Certainly one that couldn't compete in Australia. You infer that some people, presumably licensees, are treated differently or unfairly because the are not "big players". Where is your proof? Asking for you to provide some facts to justify your view is not opprobrium but asking you to be fair. You demand it but don't want to do it. What is "too big"? Te Akau? Lance O'Sullivan? Robbie Patterson? Pitman? Kenny Rae? All different size stables but all could be called successful. Recently I have had the experience of seeing inside a couple of big stables and talked to a number of successful trainers. I knew that they take things to a different level but even I was surprised to what level they go to to ensure success. The systems and science behind what they do is impressive and legal. It needs to be if you are going to get that extra 1 to 2% that makes your horse competitive at the elite level. Your everyday battler could do the same or similar things but on average they don't try learn or improve. It's the same in any sport or business for that matter. Bur if you have any facts to support your contention that the deck is loaded in favour of some over others then please do provide some evidence.

Like Wairoa.

No but some horses don't fit into a big stables process. Doesn't mean that in the right environment they won't be OK. At the very least you know they have been well educated. In the Harness world some boutique trainers specialise in picking up others cast off's and do OK.

Many. Better to fight somewhere else before they get here. WW2 tells you that.

What are you saying? If they are no good there then they are definitely no good?

Well supposedly Messara walked the Waipuk track and said it wasn't up to scratch. I wonder how many tracks he did visit...let me guess...

There is a shyte load of horses looking for a home out of Singapore and Macau.