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Imperatriz isn't a big mare. 16 hands just! - standing on a stone. Thoroughbreds keep growing until they're 6 yrs old. No horse has won more Group 1s in the world this year than Imperatriz. So aim for some more black type doing what's right for the horse and bank that residual value. 12 months from here if she comes up better than this year......why not round off her career with The Everest?

Sadly you don't accept what is written.....well before now. Now you are a self-proclaimed expert on most things answer this: If you owned an available slot what would you offer Te Akau to have Imperatriz as your runner?

Thanks for posting that @KimButt

I think you'll find better value punting elsewhere. Everyone talks about Racing's "social license" does The Everest tick any of the boxes?

In recent times in NZ it would be TABNZ profits and we would have all complained. At the end of the day the TAB (OZ and NZ) money comes from one source - the punter. The Everest is no different to the Karaka Millions. Actually probably worse.

Imperatriz won't be starting in The Everest. Maybe next year.......

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How much?

Agree @nod Meanwhile marketing NZ Racing is left to the 3 codes who must fund it out of their allocations.

My point is that this has been done year on year with the Melbourne Cup. The promotion of The Everest is no different i.e. it isn't anything new.

Come on @Freda and @curious - where do you think the other $11.6m comes from? Most of it is from the TABCorp sponsorship and now Entain is in on the gig. Smoke and mirrors.

So what's the difference? You agree then that it isn't necessarily the only promotion to the "general public"? I'm surprised who is buying into the hype. It was set up primarily to scavenge off the Victorian Racing Carnival. In my opinion it encapsulates everything that is wrong or critics say is wrong with NZ Racing. Does it appeal to the general public? A race that has a $700k entry fee, that involves behind the scenes machinations and horse trading by racings super elite, a $600+ trophy and so on. Does it return significant revenue to NZ racing? In Australia it is now the focal point of a shit fight between NSW and Victoria racing. Geez many of you criticise Karaka but The Everest is Karaka on steroids!

Only open to anyone who buys a $700k raffle ticket.

Uh? How's that any different to the Melbourne Cup promotions done each year?

The add also states that it is the World's Richest Race. Which it isn't.

Were they asked? Wouldn't a polytrack be a better all weather track option than their current crusher dust options.

Would it have been OK for the recently postponed Woodville meeting? Afterall if you lose a day's racing (revenue) you can't get it back.

You're getting very tedious @holy ravioli Let's explain it simply for you. @Bill introduced Rocket Spade into the discussion. A past winner of the NZ Derby who was sold for good money to Hong Kong but who hasn't really gone on with it. I then referred to Sharp 'N' Smart in relation to Rocket Spade. He ran a shocker last Saturday. Perhaps Rogie went too far with him as a 3yr old as Rogie is prone to do and the horse hasn't come back this year as a 4yr old. Or it's a simple case of not handling the track at Hastings. Or a health reason. My reference to the upside of Warsaw was in relation to Warsaw. In my opinion he is a talented horse, races kindly and cleanly, had some really nice but unlucky runs as a three old, lightly raced and won his last race at Ruakaka the way only good horses do. It seems I'm not the only racing follower who thinks Warsaw has a lot of upside. If the pub rumours are correct and he was bought for $1.5m then some good judges agree. Note I said he was a nice horse before he was sold. His run in the Derby wasn't that bad. It was also interesting that Opie Bosson rode him at Ruakaka. No doubt he provided feedback to some interested potential buyers. He may not adapt to Hong Kong but in my opinion, he is the ideal type for the Hong Kong Derby. He is certainly bred to get 2000m or more.

1972 was a good year. Kissed a girl called Raylene in the back row of the Hokitika movie theatre.

So is this a measure of who's last? Surely you are not promoting that we catch up with the rest! Beg Borrow Hope Robertson is keen to do that. Thankfully he'll be retiring soon.....12 days to go!

Geez - it must just about be ready to drink!

Warsaw has a lot of upside relative to what he has done so far. @holy ravioli the

Sharp 'N' Smart hasn't come back that well either. However I think Warsaw has a lot more upside.

Thanks for that. He hasn't raced since his win at Ruakaka. Would you expect NZTR to be up to date?

Yes at least 6 meetings a year.