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The Judgement says Crawford "has a clear record".

It isn't bad luck. More often a better horse wins on the day because it either performed above its assessment or the favourite performed below theirs or both. The point is you can't measure your variable of "luck" before a race.

It's not a variable. What is "luck"? You can't measure it before the race and you can't measure it after the race. The fact that you can't measure it before the race means you can't include it in your assessment of chance. No you are. If you can't measure a variable then it isn't worth worrying about or it isn't actually a variable e.g. luck! At least 1 in 3 favourites do. Odds and prices are assessments of chance based on measurable variables (unless you use your methods).

Heartbreaking images: Flood shock for racing participants in NSW Murwillumbah racetrack submerged under water (image: Melinda Turner/Twitter) By Adam Dobbin 06:37pm • 01 March 2022 0 Comments Leading trainer Matt Dunn was preparing to jump on a Jet Ski on Tuesday afternoon in a bid to reach his flood-ravaged Murwillumbah stables to assess the damage. Like much of Northern NSW, Murwillumbah has been the subject of major flooding, the extent laid bare in photos that have emerged of Murwillumbah Race Club where the winning post is almost completely submerged with water. The Tweed River peaked at a staggering 6.5m. “The water is beginning to recede now so I’m about to jump on a jetski and get to the stables and assess the fallout,” Dunn said. Murwillumbah has been the subject of major flooding (pic: Melinda Turner/Twitter) “Thankfully we are a bit higher where we are located to some of the other trainers which had to relocate to Ballina and other areas. “This flooding has peaked higher than back in 2017 and there were definitely some anxious moments. “Now the clean-up job begins but when you look at what the people in Lismore are experiencing it seems like nothing at all.” Dunn was in Melbourne on Monday when receiving word about the imminent flood threat before flying back to the region this morning to be on deck for the recovery mission with his staff. A horse in a stable with rising floodwaters (pic: Melinda Turner/Twitter) “It got quite anxious yesterday just because of how quickly it all happened,” Dunn said. “Yesterday morning the staff were working horses on the treadmill then a few hours later it’s all completely underwater. “The horses though are incredibly resilient. Most people would think that having significant water in their boxes would have them highly strung and panicking but they really do take in their stride. “I remember back in 2017 when we went through it we had winners six days later.” Trainer Matthew Dunn. In the coming days, Dunn will be on hand to aid his nine-strong staff at his Murwillumbah stables in picking up the pieces. “I’m not sure how much I can do but we’ll all get in and do our bit,” Dunn said. “To see images of the track and winning post underwater is pretty confronting and unfortunately when you live in these parts flooding like this is a part of life. “It’s a very emotional time for a lot of people. And when you see the devastation it is causing in areas like Lismore it puts it all in perspective. “Cleaning out stables and replacing some carpet doesn’t seem as significant.”

Luck isn't a variable. You can't measure "luck". Next. You're the type of punter the TAB wants.

Why bother? You're the idiot telling us that every horse has the same chance regardless of variables.

Not WILL but LIKELY to. You don't appear to be able to do that as you price them all the same. Numbers 1 through 40 are all paying $1.50!

They don't all have an equal chance of winning like a Lotto Ball. You just stick to choosing random numbers.

So back on topic..... Theoretically Crawford could have let his horse be pushed down onto the pegs and then could have pushed out again as long as he didn't break his horse up! What a dumb dumb dumb rule!

If TAB NZ couldn't run pokies then revenue would be down 10m+. That's how the RIB is funded.

Go Brodster!!!!

He is still interested. Obviously has a passion for harness racing and from what I've heard scares every bookie in the industry. He just needs to work around the system.

In the first instance it isn't HRNZ it's the RIB. But I agree HRNZ should stand up and take a position. Otherwise the RIB will kill harness racing. Hell a couple of weeks ago we had the CEO of the RIB saying that banning whips was inevitable. It isn't his call and if that happens then you may as well hand over all assets to the Thoroughbreds!

How's Glenda doing?

Amazing photos: Racing officials count cost after extreme flooding Flood damage at Albion Park following the deluge of rain. Picture: Supplied. By Trenton Akers 03:49pm • 28 February 2022 2 Comments Southeast Queensland race clubs face a nervous wait to examine the extent of the damage caused by incredible flooding following a three-day deluge which saw more than 700mm of rainfall, wiping out all racing across the weekend. Incredibly, while a number of large training centres such as Eagle Farm saw significant flooding to their infield stables, there were no reports of animals in distress as flood waters rose. Such was the amount of rainfall, Doomben recorded its heaviest ever reading on the penetrometer on Friday morning. Eagle Farm trainer Rob Heathcote had floodwaters up to his knees during the worst of it on Sunday, leaving everything – including his horses – stranded. READ: RACENET IQ FORM ANALYST MARK GUEST LANDS $520,000 BIG 6 AT CAULFIELD Eagle Farm trainer Rob Heathcote’s stables after flooding. Picture: supplied “There’s nothing we can do because there are no spare boxes,” he said before a huge clean up effort began on Monday with help from the Brisbane Racing Club, with an emphasis on dry saw dust to put into the stables. While Eagle Farm and Doomben went under, it is expected Brisbane’s premier greyhound and harness facility Albion Park will be the worst hit, with officials bracing for up to two weeks without racing due to damage. Situated right next to the Brisbane River, Albion Park was quickly inundated by Saturday and Brisbane Greyhounds chief executive Luke Gatehouse says he expected the floodwaters to peak at around 4m. “In 2011 it was 4.4m and it was like the end of the world,” he said. “We won’t be getting in there for a few days (to inspect) it would seem. “I think it was 4m this time, so we will see, but there is more water coming down the river and it is pretty bleak at Albion Park purely because of where it is. Flood damage at Albion Park following the deluge of rain. Picture: Supplied. “We are anticipating everything, in 2011 all of the boxes went completely under and I think they probably won’t go fully under this time but it will still get to the electrics and that is the biggest issue, we run on electric systems. “The underground cabling at Albion Park isn’t that flash either because of the tidal plane we are on. “The track will be washed away so we will have to do a rebuild there and our source of sand will probably be having a similar issue to us – they have their own issues. “It won’t be a quick return I think, we do have a plan in place and our contractors and suppliers are ready to go but.” It is expected however that harness racing could potentially return quicker than greyhounds at the track. Flood damage at Albion Park following the deluge of rain. Picture: Supplied. Meanwhile, with thoroughbred meetings transferred to the Sunshine Coast poly track on Tuesday and Wednesday, Racing Queensland executive general manager of operations Adam Wallish said they would go ahead, along as participants were able to safely travel to the track. “We can’t have participants in horse floats driving through the conditions so that is what will determine those meetings, the poly track itself will be fine,” he said. Wallish also said officials will be on the lookout for diseases which may have made their way into the racing surfaces through the extreme flooding.

Or both. What does the evidence say?

Agreed. He is either incompetent or has no ambition.

Of course it isn't. But double or more the $200 Crawford had to pay and well that's a huge penalty for a Junior Driver trying to get started in the game. There is definitely a case for a funded advocate. Not the Molloy type that goes off on tangents costing those he "helps" thousands. Wait till you see the bills he has run up become published.

I wonder if it was a company car?

Cops investigate suspicious blaze at Jockey Club boss' home Sam Sherwood13:12, Feb 28 2022 JOSEPH JOHNSON/STUFF Canterbury Jockey Club chief executive Tim Mills pictured in 2012. Police are investigating a suspicious car fire at the home of Canterbury Jockey Club’s chief executive. Emergency services were called to the blaze at the club’s house on Racecourse Rd, Christchurch about 12.30am on Monday. Chief executive Tim Mills said he and his wife were woken to the sound of a tyre exploding. “I leapt out of bed, saw flames and [an] orange glow out the window and my wife rang the fire brigade.” Mills rushed to get his garden hose and saw the back left tyre of his work car on fire. “I managed to get around with the hose and get things slightly under control by the time the fire brigade arrived. The car was damaged and the side of the house was scorched, but it was one of those things that could’ve been a hell of a lot worse,” Mills said. “The fire brigade did say we weren’t far away from it being a lot more significant.” A police spokeswoman said the fire was being treated as suspicious and the investigation was ongoing. Mills said he did not want to speculate as to why someone would want to set fire to his car, which was currently being repaired. “It’s hard to imagine a reason why anyone would want to do something like that,” he said. “I would just hope that there’s someone out there that knows something and have got enough courage to realise that what was done was particularly stupid and dangerous and [they] should be held to account for it.”

That's just nominations. The final field may well be smaller. Arguably if it had been held on Boxing Day the numbers might have been less. The numbers are indicative of a bigger problem not just related to the timing of the event.

Agreed @Brodie but it gets really expensive for some. Perhaps you should donate 10% of your TAB winnings to a fighting fund for those Drivers and Trainers that don't belong to a big stable? If Crawford had pleaded not guilty then it would have likely proceeded to a non-race day hearing. The RIB would have got their analyst to download and view all the HD video from every angle. Another Legal Eagle for the RIB would have turned up and 50/50 Crawford would have been found guilty. Wham! $300 fine plus $1,000 costs. I agree someone should fight back but even the top Drivers go "to he'll with it I'll just write a cheque!" Ends up cheaper.

But they don't have an equal chance do they unlike a Lotto ball. Otherwise they would all be paying the same price. For a start don't 1 in 3 favourites win? You can't say that about a Lotto ball.

Ok so they have made a Regulation that links to two sub-rules of 869 i.e. 869 (3) and (4) which are extremely vague. So does "easing another runner down the track" mean you can push your wheel in front of the other sulky? That aside how did the horse on the outside "not have clear passage during the race"? Arguably it had "clear passage" just it was three wide!!!! Geez a good bush lawyer could have had a field day arguing the case for Crawford!