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Chief Stipe

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  1. Right so the essence of your argument is that there should have been an inquiry into the placings. Petronelli Gee should have been disqualified for crowding the tiring horse Prince Teka. I guess you wanted Aiguille disqualified too? 99 times out of 100 Ready I Am wouldn't have fallen. A top driver would have steered clear of Aiguille and ducked down to the rail.
  2. Scratched today. Lining up Wednesday. https://www.racingqueensland.com.au/racing/full-calendar/thoroughbred/meeting/ipsw/20220420/race/2
  3. What rules? How could it have gone through a gap that didn't exist? That aside Prince Teka was tiring badly and a gap emerged for Petronelli Gee. Orange mistimed it by a split second otherwise would have got through without interference. There is no way that Ready I Am would have taken that gap nor the one between Prince Teka and Aiguille as the latter was moving out. Look at the video and you can see that Ready I Am is essentially on the back of the galloping Aiguille - a top driver would have seen that horse galloping early and have gone inside it as soon as it started moving out.
  4. Ready I Am wasn't even in a gap between Prince Teka and the galloping Aiguille. Couldn't Wakelin see the galloping Aiguille coming back onto it? There was plenty of time and room to go inside it.
  5. Enquiry about what? To achieve what?
  6. I think the Stipes got it right. Orange caused interference and got pinged for it. Aiguille moved out while galloping and closed the gap on I Am Ready. There were a number of factors that caused I Am Ready to fall.
  7. There was a judicial investigation - how do you think Orange was charged? There wasn't in inquiry into places because no dividend bearing placed horse was interfered with. I disagree Aiguille took I Am Ready's line not Prince Teka. Wakelin had ample time to move inside Aiguille but could control her horse - she is leaning out of the sulking trying to steer it! You can see clearly in this sequence of photo's that Prince Teka is going backwards at a great rate of knots - damn near walking and Aiguille has moved at least two cart widths out and is galloping erratically. Orange is well gone by the time I Am Ready falls.
  8. Even with Prince Teka down to a walk and Aiguille moving outwards to close the gap?
  9. I disagree. Just watched the end of the race a few times. Aiguille also ran out and took the feet out from under Ready I Am. Fell well after Orange had gone. Sure Orange moved in but Prince Teka was tiring badly and it and Aiguille squeezed the other horse. Any opinions on whether or not Wakelin had full control of her horse?
  10. Yes absolutely. Otherwise the case comes down to opinion be it a vets opinion. Looking at those involved on the RIB side I cannot see how Harris will get a fair hearing. Were tests done to determine the cause of the problem? The nub of the case is - was Harris aware of the problem? Did he act quickly enough to address it? The Vet taking 16 days to get there didn't help either.
  11. I didn't say it was open and shut. I just asked if it was then why the need for a high flying lawyer at great industry expense? Was an autopsy done?
  12. If it is an open and shut case why the need to pay top dollar for a Meredith Connell lawyer? Are there other horses involved or just Riverfalls? Was a full autopsy done on Riverfalls?
  13. Thursday, 14 April 2022 Horse trainer’s animal cruelty hearing begins By Chris Barclay 1129 0 Canterbury Sport Racing Trainer Paul Harris denied an animal cruelty-related charge laid by the Racing Integrity Board. Photo: Star Media A Racing Integrity Board hearing investigating allegations of animal cruelty by a leading Canterbury thoroughbred horse trainer is underway. Paul Harris has been charged under the rules of racing with failing to take all reasonable steps to ensure the physical health needs of five-year-old bay mare Riverfalls. He is jointly charged with Rebecca Rae, who housed Riverfalls at a Loburn property as she spelled after the final race of her 33-start career at Wingatui on June 6, 2021. Harris and Rae deny the charge, which stemmed from a visit by two RIB investigators to Paul Harris Racing on South Eyre Rd, Swannanoa, on October 12, 2021. An emaciated Riverfalls was euthanised on veterinary advice about three hours after the investigators arrived at the property, acting on information received. Harris trained Riverfalls on behalf of a syndicate that leased the horse from owners in the Waikato. The hearing, which is scheduled to resume next month, opened before committee chair Warwick Gendall QC and Noel McCutcheon at Riccarton Racecourse last week, with the proceedings dominated by the RIB’s case. RIB lawyer Steve Symon said its evidence focused on the failure to provide veterinary care early enough for Riverfalls, whose appearance shocked a veterinarian, who felt “blindsided” when asked to treat the horse. Dr Lillian Bonner was initially contacted by Rae on September 14, 2021 and they exchanged messages via text. “She (Rae) did say she looked bad and it looked like she was starving her,” Bonner told the hearing. Riverfalls at the Karaka Sales in January 2018. Photo: New Zealand Bloodstock After delays due to scheduling issues, Bonner saw Riverfalls at the Harris stables on September 30, the same day she had transferred from Loburn. “At the time I expected to do a nutrition consult, perhaps treat for ulcers, look at teeth and bodywork. “I walked over to the box and I was shocked at how emaciated she was,” said Bonner, who rated Riverfalls’ body condition score as 1 or 2 out of 10. Bonner spoke to Harris telling him the horse was in a seriously poor condition and it could not have happened overnight. “He agreed and said he thought the horse may have been poisoned,” she said. Bonner, who said she did not assume the mare was being starved, formulated a refeeding plan and a course of oral deworming medication Panacur to treat internal parasites. “I didn’t want to be accusatory, I just didn’t have it in my mind that any of this was intentional,” she said. “In summary, I thought I was blindsided going to treat a horse for loss of condition to find emaciation. I was surprised no veterinarian had seen the horse prior.” Bonner felt Riverfalls should have been treated a month before she saw her. The horse’s condition deteriorated further and veterinarian Dr Alisa Corser told the hearing euthanasia was the only option when she was summoned to the property by RIB investigator Simon Irving. RIB investigator Kylie Williams took photos and a video of Riverfalls that were produced for the committee. They are currently subject to a non-publication order. Corser, who is contracted to the RIB, made the decision to euthanise Riverfalls in conjunction with Dr Hamish Rankin, who carried out the procedure. She described Riverfalls condition as “the worst I’d seen in my experience outside a hospital environment”. “There is no doubt she was suffering, no doubt Riverfalls would have been in pain,” Corser said. Riverfalls was suffering from severe emaciation and showing signs of colitis, an inflammation of the large intestine which is often fatal. Defence counsel Stephanie Grieve asked if colitis could cause emaciation. “It can, but it doesn’t usually cause emaciation in that rapid of a time frame, in my experience,” Corser said.
  14. I take it your punt failed?
  15. Personally I think the Roc De Cambes require a bit of time and a wet track. A 3yr old filly starting on Sunday on the Sunshine Coast might be worth a look. Rising 4yr old and a Soft track. Race 1 Sunshine Coast | Sunshine Coast Turf Club | 12.25PM  VILI'S FAMILY BAKERY Maiden Handicap 1000m MDN Mychyna (NZ).
  16. So he believes the TAB NZ propaganda? Mmmmm does he truly understand the link between track infrastructure and wagering? A Project that is well over time and well over budget. Knocking on $3m and delivered what? How will it assist with the marketing of racing wagering? Was there a business case? Will it save costs? Will it generate extra revenue?
  17. But the guidelines are not complete are they? Riccarton Park-Canterbury JC 9 April 2022 – R4 – Terry Moseley ID: RIB8485 Respondent(s): Terry Moseley - Jockey Applicant: Mr John Oatham - Chief Stipendiary Steward Adjudicators: Dave Anderson (Chair) and Olivia Jarvis. Information Number: A12572 Decision Type: Adjudicative Decision Charge: "Struck his mount MISS TAVI above shoulder height" Rule(s): 638(3)(F)(ii) - Whip Regulations. Plea: Admitted Stewards Report Results Animal Name: MISS TAVI Code: Thoroughbred Race Date: 09/04/2022 Race Club: Canterbury Jockey Club Race Location: Riccarton Park - 165 Racecourse Road, Christchurch, Race Number: R4 Hearing Date: 09/04/2022 Hearing Location: Riccarton Racecourse, Christchurch. Outcome: Proved Penalty: Jockey Terry Moseley is fined $250. Evidence Following the running of Race 4, the Respondent Mr Terry Moseley admitted a charge alleging use of whip above shoulder height over the concluding stages. Rule 638(3)(f)(ii) provides that in a Flat Race a Rider must not: (ii) use an action that raises the Rider’s arm above shoulder height. Using the available race films, Chief Stipendiary Steward Mr John Oatham demonstrated that the Respondent struck his mount 2 times above shoulder height over the concluding stages of the race. In response, the Respondent Mr Moseley said he was disappointed to be charged as he thought he had adapted well to the changes in the Whip Regulations. Decision As the Respondent Mr Moseley admitted the breach, the Adjudicative Committee finds the breach proved (Rule 915(1)(d) refers). Submissions For Penalty Mr Oatham produced the Respondent’s record which indicated a warning under the Rule on 21 December 2021 at Ashburton. Stewards assessed the breach as low and submitted there was no Penalty Guide starting point for this Rule in the NZTR Revised Penalty Guide for improper whip use (as of 1 March 2022). Mr Oatham said the Stewards could draw a comparison with the penalties for whip use before the 100 metres. The Respondent Mr Moseley made no submissions on Penalty. Reasons For Penalty The Penalty Guide has no starting point for a breach of this Rule. After considering the film evidence and the submissions and having due regard for the number of strikes and the status of the race, the Adjudicative Committee determined it was fair and reasonable to align a penalty with those of Rule 638(3)(g)(i) “using the whip more than 5 times prior to the 100m mark”. On that basis, the Respondent is fined $250. Conclusion The Respondent is fined $250.
  18. Not in this decade or probably the last. OZ are looking after the integrity of their product which is reflected in their wagering turnover.
  19. In my opinion both the Harness and Galloping codes in OZ are providing more opportunities for all classes of horses. NZ is stuck in a failed model. So average NZ horses have more opportunities in OZ to line up in even fields and earn revenue for the industry as well as their owners.
  20. Who would know? Seconds thoughts NZTR would know. So how hard would it be transparent and informative by adding an explanation to the announcement? I.e. a reason why.
  21. Can you use the sarcasm font?
  22. And you wonder why punters have more confidence betting on OZ horses than NZ horses?
  23. Maybe but why did he need to cheat? Two week suspension and a $40,000 fine. Rawiller cops massive penalty for memorable Queen Elizabeth ride Nash Rawiller gets to work aboard Think It Over enroute to victory in the Queen Elizabeth Stakes at Randwick on Saturday. Photo: Mark Evans/Getty Images. By Clinton Payne 08:27pm • 09 April 2022 0 Comments Nash Rawiller shook his head in disbelief after stewards slapped him with a huge excessive whip use penalty from the Queen Elizabeth Stakes which he won aboard the Kerry Parker-trained Think It Over. Rawiller guided the popular gelding to a giant killing victory when trouncing the likes of Verry Elleegant, Zaaki, Duais and Anamoe in the $4 million weight-for-age contest. “What a horse,” Rawiller said after the race. ”I had a lot of good horses behind me. “I don’t want to carry on about what I did, it’s all about Kerry Parker and his team down at Kembla Grange. “To come around and win this big race, it’s one in a million and he’s pulled it off today. “It was unreal.” But stewards quickly removed the smile from Rawiller’s face when issuing a two-week suspension and $40,000 fine for the jockey’s excessive whip use. Rawiller pleaded guilty to striking Think It Over eight times prior to the final 100 metres and 20 times in total. Under NSW whip rules, a jockey is allowed to breach the five strikes prior to the final 100m rule provided they don’t hit the horse more than 18 times in total during the race. When handing down the penalty chief steward Marc Van Gestel told Rawiller there were multiple factors for the heavy penalty. “The Queen Elizabeth Stakes is one of our flagship races of the autumn”, Think It Over’s winning margin was “half-a-length” and (taking into account) Rawiller’s past whip record “particularly in feature races”. Rawiller’s suspension starts on Sunday week and he is free to resume riding from Monday, May 2. Think It Over earned $2.3 million for winning the Queen Elizabeth, Rawiller’s five per cent winning riding fee totalled $115,000. The former champion Sydney rider was fined $2000 last week for a whip breach aboard Commando Hunt which finished second in the Country Championships Final. On that occasion, Rawiller struck that galloper eight times prior to the final 100m and 19 times in total. Rawiller’s previous whip use penalty was a $20,000 fine and six meeting suspension he incurred aboard Eduardo in The Everest last year.
  24. Instead of sniping fill ya boots explaining to us the "other side" of the story and why the penalty handed down was unjust?
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