Chief Stipe

Especially to those that are not winning.

Is this any entirely hypothetical situation where you answered you own question? In my opinion the Landlord of a racing and training establishment that has sublet facilities with shared infrastructure should have the right to access all parts of the property with notification or immediately in an emergency. NZTR should look to licensing such.

Addington Cup and Show Day are now pleasant experiences rather than crammed in fighting for food and drink. Riccarton is still a shyte show.

They are all owners costs. But these things don't worry you anymore as you are on your last wagering funded horse.

But it hasn't happened yet.

So one season no change equals stagnation?

A better comparison than a pub licensee.

FFS are you losing it? You start a topic titled "what's the go?" Then you first post is vague. You second just as vague. Like drawing teeth. Did Tim Mills enter Pam Robsons stables at Riccarton uninvited? You two are getting as bad as each other.

I recall him posting online that if anyone stopped him from visiting his horses pre-race he'd tell where to stick it.

Is that in the rules? Does it apply to Wightman entering the tie ups on raceday?

Well do you think the HKJC can't inspect their stables at any time? Instead of beating around the bush presumably on behalf of a licensed member just post what's happened. Instead of these riddles.

Not a very comparative analogy. For a number of reasons.

Ok so we have established that the "Landlord" is a Racing Club and the training premises are presumably owned by the Club and on Club land i.e. their racecourse property. Now in those circumstances the "Landlord" and Tenant rights and responsibilities are interesting. Putting to one side that the enforcement arm of the industry can enter premises at any time without notice. As the property is soley for the purpose of training and racing horses perhaps the Landlord should be a licensed entity/person (they are licensed to race are they not?) and have rights and responsibilities that transcend the normal landlord/tenant laws. Perhaps that is something NZTR and Clubs could work towards when the Clubs rewrite and re-register as Incoporated Societies.

So it is a racecourse?

Well she has stepped up every time she has been asked and her last 9 wins have been convincing. That field yesterday had 10 Grp 1 winners in it (before Tom Kitten was scratched). She picked them up and dropped them. That field has won over AUD$42m in stakes to date.

Can you provide a link to this post @Newmarket I can't seem to find it on Brad MacDonald's page so he must have posted it in one the many groups you frequent.

I might add Fakebook isn't really a good source of accurate information. Bit like @JJ Flash Can you provide a link to this post @Taku Umanga I can't seem to find it on Brad MacDonald's FB page so he must have posted it in on a group page somewhere.

This is fake news by the likes of it but I wouldn't expect anything else from you @Newmarket. The facts are that then AUS and NZ ENTAIN assets are worth over NZD$2 billion. The "annual loss" that you quote represents an impairment charge that has devalued the assets of the AUS and NZ business. In fact revenue and profit was still up in AU and NZ but didn't match expectations and were affected by the increases in Point Of Consumption charges and other factors that notably affected ALL agencies in Australia. A further charge was put against the accounts for the AUSTRAC case. In comparison BETr had a $14m dollar loss and has an net tangible asset value of $105m. Which is roughtly 5% of the ENTAIN AU and NZ operations. Please read the respective reports attached and come back with an informed opinion. Perhaps it could be a reverse takeover by ENTAIN of BETr!! BETR Entertainment Limited - Appendix 4E and FY25 Annual Report (BBT-AU).pdfEntain_Annual_Report_2024.pdf

She is very special. I said.that after she spanked NZ's 1000 Guineas winner in the Kewney Stakes at the beginning of the year.

You too. Suggest you open a bottle of red, put a log on the fire and read those annual reports I posted for you.

BTW the Sportsbet foray was funded by Newscorp. Also don't forget to mention the AUSTRAC action against Sportsbet nor the ongoing BETr investigation.

So @Newmarket was BETr one of your plethora of OZ agencies you had an account with? How much better were they than ENTAIN?

ENTAIN doesn't have full control. It is overseen by a Statutory Body called TABNZ. TABNZ.org.nz In 2023, TAB NZ entered a 25-year strategic partnering arrangement with Entain NZ, delegating the functions of betting and broadcasting. TAB NZ remains the regulatory body responsible for overseeing Entain NZ, and the partnering agreement will guarantee record funding to New Zealand racing and sports. Divesting the NZ business isn't as straightforward as you infer. I don't see ENTAIN giving $2b of assets away nor $1b of annual revenue.

Didn't you read the reports about how accounts were closed to avoid paying out?

You haven't done your homework. One week you are moaning about punters getting screwed by ENTAIN then the next week you are spruiking someone who right royally screwed punters over.