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How much is that going to provide? I'd say not as much as they think or at least not enough.

So 28 on the Turf course?

Well you are talking 30 so I'm out by 10. So only 10 meetings on the glorious Riccarton Turf track for the year? But if I'm delusional then the person who made the public statement that I read must be an absolute loon. Would you agree?

Yes Matamata have their own AWT. You'd think though on that basis Cambridge could have built their own after all they say they are "the largest training centre in Australasia"! As for their Turf track everything gets sucked into the black hole of Te Rapa. So hard to get the racedays and subsequent revenues to fund repairs on the turf. Why didn't the PGF build a Strathayr at Matamata? More "Provincial" than Cambridge. The truth is Cambridge's turf training track was stuffed, they didn't want to spend their own money and the big boys convinced Winnie to cough up the dough. The rich got richer! As for New Plymouth it's a basket case due to it being on a dodgy lease. Why spend big bucks when you are likely to get the boot?

They replaced it at Newmarket. When are you guys going to sort your turf out? Geez Pitty you missed your calling you should have been a BS spinning politician. Since when was Christchurch classified as "Provincial"? Even Winnie and Jonesie got rapped over the knuckles for that one! The fact is the PGF was bastardised to slip this through. So everyone ELSE will have to travel except YOU?! Where are all these horses going to be stabled? The extra ones required to sustain the extra costs of the new track? How is Pitman going to expand their own Empire so they can get a bulk discount on track fees? As for providing "Winter Racing" - they are talking 40 race meetings on the AWT!! Thats a bloody long winter!

Then spend less on building tracks to race on and build smaller training AWT training tracks and fix the turf tracks. After all this expenditure we will still have stuffed surfaces at Ellerslie, Te Rapa and Riccarton!

Oh and Pitty if the AWT is so good why not rip out the turf track and replace it with a Polytrack? Like they did at Newmarket. At least the "crowds" won't be so far away from the action.

Godsen doesn't seem to put HIS money where his mouth is. His stats from the last five years shows he prefers turf..... In the next 14 days he has 20 horses nominated - 3 of those on AWT - the other 17 on turf!

One "expert" and only your interpretation of what he said. Where does Godsen train and on what type of surface? I'll tell you where. He trains at Newmarket! 2,500 acres of training facilities. 50 miles of turf gallops surfaces, 14 miles of artificial tracks. The longest Polytrack is 11 furlongs about four horses wide and a straight line!!! Imagine what you could have if you sold Riccarton and built somewhere new - requires vision and balls though. I wouldn't call those that have doubts about the AWT's "doomsayers" but more practical people who are tired of seeing the industry leaders bullshit and wasting of money. Rather than addressing the real issues and promoting a workable vision. If the AWT is such a godsend (that's Godsen with a D) why didn't the CJC promote, build and fund one years ago?

Not entirely correct - there are racecourses with Strathayr training tracks. Riccarton has issues with its turf course proper. The $16m being "invested" will not address those issues. Wouldn't a better idea have been to install a much smaller synthetic training track like they did at Flemington and fix the course proper?

Just worked out why some posters did a loopy loop last night. A Full Moon!

False is an apt description of your punting prowess.

No comparison and hardly "pulling a horse" when the stupid bet wasn't for a stakes bearing place.

No it's called advertising that doesn't pay the bills to give YOU a forum to spout loony punting theories on.

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Especially the second offence where he got nailed for helping a mate out on a private farm. I see we are getting less of the nonsense head to head bets for horses that can finish anywhere in a field. The type of bet Walker got done for initially.

Don't waste your time.

He didn't commit a criminal act. As for Weir was it ever proven he used a jigger? You didn't answer my question regarding Moody.

The Northland Breeder's Stakes and the Wanganui Guineas are on the SAME day I.e. tomorrow 5 September 2020. Has that happened before? Has the Breeder's Stakes ever been raced NOT at Ruakaka? At Te Rapa (the new NZ gallops headquarters). Has our 3yr old pattern be screwed or is this a one off?

I dont know why anyone would engage with you on the merits of your loony approach to punting. What differential do you apply for wind and temperature to your POST race analysis?

Walker effectively got a life ban for stuff all. I suppose you think Moody should have got life as well?

Look at that it's back again. Magic! As for your PM functionality that is a privilege not a right and has nothing to do with openness and transparency.

I never delete anything as it is an important integrity function. Just as when I was instructed on another site to delete stuff I backed the database up first.

Watch your post disappear and then reappear. Ready, watching?