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Shouldn't it be a compulsory condition of a license to train? These types of insurance are compulsory in other trades.

Rule Number(s): Rule 638(1)(d)This charge arises from the running of race 5, the Volare Bread 1600. Chief Stipendiary Steward Mr J Oatham filed an Information pursuant to Rule 638 (1)(d) alleging the rider of FIVE STARS (L Innes) permitted his mount to shift in when insufficiently clear of STRAIGHT SETS which was crowded for a distance .View the full article

Rule Number(s): Rule 638 (1)(d)This charge arises from the running of race 7, the BCD Group 1200. Chief Stipendiary Steward Mr J Oatham filed an Information pursuant to Rule 638 (1)(d) alleging the rider of TELLYWHAT (O Bosson) permitted his mount to shift out when insufficiently clear of JUST RAJ which was hampered near the 250 metres. .View the full article

If you own and manage a brothel then you need to register and obtain a license. You then also need to provide a safe work environment. Street workers are considered essentially self-employed contractors. Your analogy is way off.

Are you seriously comparing riding a thoroughbred in track work to riding a bike? Isn't one of the first things they teach apprentice jockeys is how to bail safely from a horse when it bolts and they lose control?

No any industry body can assist in setting "standards" but the key is providing the training avenues (safe ones) to attain these standards. For example an industry body might insist that anyone wanting to be a track rider HAS to attend a minimum of a one week approved course at the end of which they must be tested to insure that they have attained the standard.

Intent wouldn't get you off. The odds are stacked when there is an accident. NZTR need to be more proactive in this area. Funding the establishment of "standards" isn't enough. It's just virtue signaling.

Who rated what?

Arguably all the training and supervision in the world isn't going to prevent accidents from happening. Working with racehorse's comes with high risk as is reflected in the ACC levies.

I'm not sure you understand the National Standards/NZQA process. National Standards have been set to gain QUALIFICATION'S in the racing industry. It isn't clear how the attainment of those "standards" is measured. For example to gain a stable hands license isn't it just a simple case of a licensed trainer signing the form? In my opinion one of NZTR's primary roles is to provide assistance and manage training - rather than looking at what race courses to close! The following organisation's are certified to provide training (I think the list speaks for itself): National Certificate in Equine (Stable Procedures) (Level 3) with strands in Harness Racing Stable Assistant, Sporthorse Stable Assistant, Thoroughbred Racing Stable Assistant, and Thoroughbred Racing Track Rider Community Colleges New Zealand Limited Kyrewood Equestrian Centre Limited Nelson Marlborough Institute of Technology Taratahi Agricultural Training Centre (In Liquidation) Telford - a Division of Lincoln University Training For You Limited

FFS do you think ANYONE that has read your continual diatribe of BS would follow your tips? You could have put your two cents worth in in the Foxbridge topic discussion BEFORE the race like other enthusiasts did.

LOL - stick to Arts and Literature Tomasina. It will take longer for the heavier horse to slow according to F=ma

You didn't post any selections BEFORE the races on Saturday.

I heard that McKee's total bill is over $400k.

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Thomaas you didn't post any picks for yesterday BEFORE any race. Always afterwards. The only comment you made was that there were 2 x $10k bets on Te Akau Shark.

Who trains the track rider?

The barrier draw?! The Shark's pattern of racing is to get back regardless of the draw.

Thanks for posting that Thomaas even if it is largely irrelevant to the issue being discussed. Two issues with what you have posted: The Trainer's Association have no power over enforcing standards with Trainers - only the License issuer has that; The "standards" you copied have NOTHING to do with the supervision of workers. They are "standards" that need to be obtained to get a QUALIFICATION!

Wasn't quite the same rules then. Now an investigation would take place regardless. That's part of the reason why we saw a spate of race meeting cancellations. It would be interesting to see what sort of investigation would take place if a jockey was seriously injured or killed during a race. Who would be liable?

It is unfortunately the world we live in now. Someone has to cop the blame. I agree that more should be done by the governing bodies to assist trainers in managing the risks. I also agree with Freda that there needs to be some form of pre-stable entry education. Surely both these tasks rest with NZTR? Did McKee have liability insurance?

This the same "niller" that has said Consensus is the best 2000m horse in Aus/NZ and has convinced McKee to aim for the Cox Plate? Aren't we all still waiting for Felaar to live up to its "potential"?

Sorry my mistake. The brother-in-law involved is Simon Lamond - Julie Christie's partner (Molly's sister). Lamond is the "Private Investigator" who helped with the Caffiene case and presumably with the defence and Inca.

Sorry my mistake. The brother-in-law involved is Simon Lamond - Julie Christie's partner (Molly's sister). Lamond is the "Private Investigator" who helped with the Caffiene case and presumably with the defence and Inca.

Who are you calling "Snake"?