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In respect of Messiah that could possibly be true...he worked under the Arrowfield Partnership....but ultimately understood how good he was... let's face it though...De Lore conjured up all of this...encouraging Winn to get Messiah involved...and ultimately Winn had to succumb to De Lore's endless conjuring via his articles Besides a few minor indiscretions in Messiah's report....he really is the one and only God that's not blindingly false right now?

Ok so in moi's day... we would have id'd you as a 'whinging pom' I no longer do that however pete...so I wont But seriously....did you go to a 'public school'...get unmercifully thrashed by the Head Prefect...maybe your 'fag'....I.e. For the faint hearted...'chore boy' ...and you've harboured a grudge agin thrashings and Whiskey chase drinkers ever since?? just asking

You said "it's covered under the rules" Plainly it isn't....any Jockey/trainer can "experiment" ...read with Punters money And Of course it's INSIDER TRADING If the Jockey Manager has suggested dropping out...that leaves a certain front runner to get a cosy lead...as in the WHATA A SMASHER case.. and identified pre race by Jockey Manager Sweeney That Manager can 'trade' on that INSIDE INFORMATION And the reason why Racing NSW has banned them betting now Youre so incredibly pig ignorant...Keep up

Absolute rubbish Any Jock/trainer can change tactics at their behest... ...Any f in time they want...and "experiment" with Punters money Imagine the Stockmarket accepting a "were experimenting" with shareholders money...without notification Its called INSIDER TRADING The owners/trainer/Jockey/Jockey manager know...but nobody else That 'Board' would end up in the Grey Bar Hotel picking up each other's soap

Wtf are you talking about Reefer?? Winn set up the MAKA..headed by your besty Maka The Ministerial Advisory Kommittee... To sort through the shyte from the Petty Provincial small minded country town b/s That you're pontificating over... Answer the gooddam question wood ya Do you have confidence in your fellow Mainlander ffs??

Are you DEAF koppa?? It was the ficken GCSB that found bugs in the dirty Chinese Commo Party's system...ok? Cindy wants NZ Inc. to remain bug free...ok? Now Winn will work his magic...get the dirty low life two faced Commies absolutely shit faced...and it'll be sorted...ok? The tourists will be back...for the Fulon Gong to keep harassing the poor f'ers at Savage Memorial...and any other tourist hot spot...approved by the beloved Chinese Commo Party...ok?

It's called INTEGRITY 101... Before any Punter 'invests' in the product...they need to have belief the investment is dinky dye Not "we were experimenting"...as that rock star Matty C told Punters And if your opposition for the punting dollar is doing something...and being wildly successful...you need to follow the recipe... Like Royal Ass Kit have done And notifying tactics..costs absolutely NOTHING Like being polite...or opening the door for a hotty...

Congrats on bastardising another thread.... Go and ask Royal Ascot why they've decided to finally get on the Information Highway with sectional timing... Do you think it's for the Queen to peruse perhaps?

Here's a hot tip... Just GET ON everything THE SHARK tips... The grate White knows so much about the whole shebang... and across all codes.... That he writes the form comment as well Give the great toothed one a brake ffs

What utter crap you talk...Winfried thinks way differently “When you look at why we have been so successful, it probably goes back to around nine years ago when we had a significant turnover decrease in horse racing,” said Engelbrecht-Bresges. “Our turnover dropped from HK$93b to HK$60b so we had to have a really deep look at what were the reasons why this had happened. “You could say that we have done the most systematic analytics regarding what our current customer was and what the future customer could be.” Over the past decade, the HKJC has developed an understanding of its customer base that has become the envy of the world. This led to having a deeper understanding of gaming propensity (the behaviour traits attached to wagering), what makes horse racing attractive to punters, and what are the different customer segments. “We came back after one-and-a-half years of research with a very clear idea of a customer strategy which is based on customer-centricity,” said Engelbrecht-Bresges. “We know what the different customer segments want.” The HKJC has invested heavily in racecourse facilities and technology to satisfy its customer base. The Hong Kong racing industry is unique on the world stage, something that Engelbrecht-Bresges understands. Other jurisdictions have structural difficulties that are not present with the HKJC. “We know everything about our horse owners; we know about their behaviour, what food that they like, what type of gaming behaviour they have, what type of horses they want to buy,” said Engelbrecht-Bresges. “The same is with our customers; we know that we have 1.8 million customers on a database who are regular customers of the Club, so we know their preferences. “Because we have the racing and race-going preferences, and the gaming preferences, we can shape the offering and provide an end-to-end customer experience. “That is a big advantage.” Producing 8,400 hours of television annually allows the club to know more about their customer preferences. It can tailor content depending on what preferences its customer base has for viewing, whether television, internet channels, tablets or smart phones. The HKJC controls the racing product end-to-end; the quality of trainer, jockey, facilities and depth of information provided is all determined by the club. The HKJC has long been a leader in creating in-depth information streams for its customer base. This includes every aspect of a horse in training - from having a swim, to cantering, to a serious gallop, to how the horse scopes under veterinary examination - being made available freely to the public. “Everything is considered an information offering on an integrated platform,” said Engelbrecht-Bresges. “Having complete information, IP rights and defining what we want to do for the different customer segments is our great strategic advantage. “It’s not that I want to brag about it but you need to understand that you have these opportunities and that you need to make the best of it. “That we have done and this has helped us to grow turnover.” The HKJC has invested heavily in understanding younger demographics and creating offerings that will suit. This includes concepts that are less gaming-orientated and being more ‘playful’, with the development of the ‘Happy Wednesday’ brand at Happy Valley racecourse on Wednesday nights being the must-attend event for many in Hong Kong. Racing wagering remains the core business of the HKJC and it is something that Engelbrecht-Bresges values. “Our customers of racing want an extremely competitive product,” said Engelbrecht-Bresges. “We know that the optimum field size for our customers is 12-14 horses. “They want to have a clear distinction in what we call the class system, where you have horses clearly grouped in the different classes. “How the horses are trained is clearly transparent. “If you look at the wagering side, our customers are clearly data-driven. “ “When you look at why we have been so successful, it probably goes back to around nine years ago when we had a significant turnover decrease in horse racing,” said Engelbrecht-Bresges. “Our turnover dropped from HK$93b to HK$60b so we had to have a really deep look at what were the reasons why this had happened. “You could say that we have done the most systematic analytics regarding what our current customer was and what the future customer could be.” Over the past decade, the HKJC has developed an understanding of its customer base that has become the envy of the world. This led to having a deeper understanding of gaming propensity (the behaviour traits attached to wagering), what makes horse racing attractive to punters, and what are the different customer segments. “We came back after one-and-a-half years of research with a very clear idea of a customer strategy which is based on customer-centricity,” said Engelbrecht-Bresges. “We know what the different customer segments want.” The HKJC has invested heavily in racecourse facilities and technology to satisfy its customer base. The Hong Kong racing industry is unique on the world stage, something that Engelbrecht-Bresges understands. Other jurisdictions have structural difficulties that are not present with the HKJC. “We know everything about our horse owners; we know about their behaviour, what food that they like, what type of gaming behaviour they have, what type of horses they want to buy,” said Engelbrecht-Bresges. “The same is with our customers; we know that we have 1.8 million customers on a database who are regular customers of the Club, so we know their preferences. “Because we have the racing and race-going preferences, and the gaming preferences, we can shape the offering and provide an end-to-end customer experience. “That is a big advantage.” Producing 8,400 hours of television annually allows the club to know more about their customer preferences. It can tailor content depending on what preferences its customer base has for viewing, whether television, internet channels, tablets or smart phones. The HKJC controls the racing product end-to-end; the quality of trainer, jockey, facilities and depth of information provided is all determined by the club. The HKJC has long been a leader in creating in-depth information streams for its customer base. This includes every aspect of a horse in training - from having a swim, to cantering, to a serious gallop, to how the horse scopes under veterinary examination - being made available freely to the public. “Everything is considered an information offering on an integrated platform,” said Engelbrecht-Bresges. “Having complete information, IP rights and defining what we want to do for the different customer segments is our great strategic advantage. “It’s not that I want to brag about it but you need to understand that you have these opportunities and that you need to make the best of it. “That we have done and this has helped us to grow turnover.” The HKJC has invested heavily in understanding younger demographics and creating offerings that will suit. This includes concepts that are less gaming-orientated and being more ‘playful’, with the development of the ‘Happy Wednesday’ brand at Happy Valley racecourse on Wednesday nights being the must-attend event for many in Hong Kong. Racing wagering remains the core business of the HKJC and it is something that Engelbrecht-Bresges values. “Our customers of racing want an extremely competitive product,” said Engelbrecht-Bresges. “We know that the optimum field size for our customers is 12-14 horses. “They want to have a clear distinction in what we call the class system, where you have horses clearly grouped in the different classes. “How the horses are trained is clearly transparent. “If you look at the wagering side, our customers are clearly data-driven. “You have to offer as much information as possible into odds, pool sizes, and trends in the betting for their consideration.” The HKJC has introduced the Longitude engine to the pari-mutuel, which allows for greater liquidity in markets and to also consistently display the odds of exotic bet types, such as the Tierce and First Four offerings. This increases customer attraction to those products as the punters will have a clear idea of what the likely payout will be. Further opportunities are emerging with mainland China, with the club developing Conghua - a training centre in Guangdong. With plans to open in 2018, Conghua will provide for an additional 1500 horses to be trained, assisting with the backlog of ownership requests, and also give a marginal increase into race meetings staged. “We have no interest in wall-to-wall racing in Hong Kong,” said Engelbrecht-Bresges. “Our customers do, on average, four hours of form study per meeting before betting. “Knowing customer preferences, we want to keep horse racing as a mind game. “For that, you need richness of information and you need time to study the form, you have to have time to see the horses in the paddock and assess the conditions. “Our customer learning shows that they don’t want permanent betting opportunities, they see this as not a chance game but as a mind game. “Therefore, the driving force for us is to have sufficient time for our customers and the richness of information so that they can come to the conclusion that their bet is a good proposition. “That is why we have to be mindful as to how much racing we have in Hong Kong.” Engelbrecht-Bresges understands that this could not necessarily work in other racing jurisdictions where breeding industries will have an impact on racing opportunities. The HKJC has introduced the Longitude engine to the pari-mutuel, which allows for greater liquidity in markets and to also consistently display the odds of exotic bet types, such as the Tierce and First Four offerings. This increases customer attraction to those products as the punters will have a clear idea of what the likely payout will be. Further opportunities are emerging with mainland China, with the club developing Conghua - a training centre in Guangdong. With plans to open in 2018, Conghua will provide for an additional 1500 horses to be trained, assisting with the backlog of ownership requests, and also give a marginal increase into race meetings staged. “We have no interest in wall-to-wall racing in Hong Kong,” said Engelbrecht-Bresges. “Our customers do, on average, four hours of form study per meeting before betting. “Knowing customer preferences, we want to keep horse racing as a mind game. “For that, you need richness of information and you need time to study the form, you have to have time to see the horses in the paddock and assess the conditions. “Our customer learning shows that they don’t want permanent betting opportunities, they see this as not a chance game but as a mind game. “Therefore, the driving force for us is to have sufficient time for our customers and the richness of information so that they can come to the conclusion that their bet is a good proposition. “That is why we have to be mindful as to how much racing we have in Hong Kong.” Engelbrecht-Bresges understands that this could not necessarily work in other racing jurisdictions where breeding industries will have an impact on racing opportunities.

So many 'know it alls' on here reefer.... Yous Fellas have all the answers....and when Winn comes along with a game changer You go all 'Provincial' believing Winn and Messiah have it in for you... Do you trust McKenzie to obtain the right answers to all of the industry problems... ...including the insignificant 'once a yearers' yea or na?

Have you met with Dean McKenzie yet? Or does he think you're so insignificant that he'd rather go smoke a Coast toke?

Wtf has that got to do with the head topic khimosabi?

Wow...so if HK takes away all of their total immersion INFORMATION... nothing will change? btw...I never listen to change of tactics, wide draws, bias...et el...but I take that into account in post race analysis But it's a Punters right to know...or they bugger off to sports betting or casinos Where every punter gets to know every player's stats...wtf knew..not you

Whoa there tonto.... I said the Ruling Party of the Great Red Flag Commos who're trying to slip in listening devices as part of our freaken 5G roll out Not ordinary Johns who don't know how corrupt their great leaders are...ok

The fact is EVERY bit of information made available encourages Punters to set up their very own niches... Imagine if the Boys wear a Plaid got the info that KL would be ridden behind Ted would have unloaded more on the leader...who now had no neddy contesting the lead... ...or they may have put a saver on him to avoid the multi coming apart at the seams Its that simple

When the wigwam goes on a gooses Bridle...GET ON!

Sir to you...training for the Vella Fella... ...who instead of retiring Frankel's son EMINENT...decided he deserved a chance at The Championships in Sydney... already a G 2 winner in France beating AVILIUS and 4th in The Derby beaten 2L Its a big risk to flatten his record if he fails down under...that's the TRICKY question!

Get a grip Koppa The GSCB wanted Huawai gelded...not Cindy Its got nothing to do with her..thankfully we don't suk up to these f in bullies... So they can go whistle chop souie sioux as far as coming the Heavy with this country....screw them Peters may be more Diplomatic though...so he's in charge...ok?

Oh Lordy!! Is she wearing French themed regalia....Enable tees even?? That new Stand looks outstanding! Or just ground tickets?

All you're doing is throwing a whole lot of rhetorical questions around.. Ask yourself about HK Racing THE greatest information available to Punters...go ask yaself that question...

Yes but threads grow...and mutate don't they?...like a virus Dunno why the experts can't give bugs a dose of 'mardi grass' for example ..that'll kill anything...including a SOH It closely related anyhoos If it wasn't for the Shyte state Punters wouldn't need to know the rail reading!

Very disappointed you took down the Facts about Uranus pik Chief Lifes not all serious and sometimes you just need to have a bit of FUN don't ya? I could put up the pik up of ASSorted Fudge again if you want?

Don't know wtf you're on about The colour code is inside and out...if they're now giving the complete readings good on them! Thats what we should be doing

This is plain ignorant diagnosis...don't take up Nursing ffs The interest in Thoroughbred racing has been waning for years...around the world But especially so in NZ due to a number of factors... Take Auckland...sfa consistent racing...not to mention almost zero Training facilities close to Metro Aucks for owners to watch their steeds... Those Punters left require accurate information...if not they go elsewhere Like the Royale Burger with Cheese...as opposed to your Flat Pack