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Yes, one has to have a car licence to drive Dave. This girl didn't have a 'licence' to ride either by the looks. Worksafety..."There was no formal training to monitor, supervise and progress from her stable hand to riding a racehorse." And if a trainer is simply asking a young person if they have the experience.that doesn't count either.it's about establishing a history of experience to ride fast work.either through a CV or ringing the person who has given a rider a reference. That would stand up in any court to the scrutiny of a Worksafe charge. And if you're comparing a 'bicycle' to a Horse then you don't have a grip on the situation.

Good post freda. Please do the Industry a favour and tell this story to Marty Burns who is the NZTR go to on this. martin.burns@nztr.co.nz Id tell him Racing Victoria's system is making us look like a bunch of hopeless amatuers.

Absolutely.if those are the 'providers' then.as you say HOPELESS. The TAFE like system that Racing Victoria has is the obviously the way to go. NZTR could combine the Apprentice school into the Track Riders component and tick off each credit to obtain a basic diploma. Agree, Trainers can only do so much but as the absolute 'BASE' minimum the requirement for a 'track rider' to provide a CV with bona fide references to establish capability is now paramount. Trainers can then show their intent was to comply in good faith.

Yea sure... I look at moi's punting accounts and say... " f yea...how f in good am I at this" You however...insisted that NZTR indulge you and the other Sultans phantasy Stats of Fillies being advantaged by 0.5kgs... ...where you forgot to tell them that equates to 0.05L..in your world Perhaps they realised you were gay pretenders and were too polite to tell yous fellas to F off?

Why would I tip to other punters when I invest on the BP myself? Ive already given far too much information away on how it's done...to the ignorami ..however the glitterati already know what works...so in effect... ...you're correct...I really have nothing to worry about!! Up the BP!

Pray tell moi... When the scientific study says they used Newtons 2nd law of F= ma Did yous fellas use F= me instead? Thats the only thing I can see that may have got you two totally confused?

As I keep hammering into you chef.... Ive posted a certified TAB 10k win...after constant harassment on that day... Then the TIPPING MASTERCLASS of the century...The Tri, Q, and winner of 3 races in a row...in ONE...1100-1 odds...BEFORE the meeting... ...so just acknowledge that fact before you keep talking smack... thanks

Correct moi if I'm totes wrong here curio... Didnt you, your fellow Sultan, and others recently claim a winning Saturday without listing before racing? Yep And of course your 'punting masterclass' on Saturday included listing ED at 40's and The Shark 18's...wow...did you not rate G1 Oz form? what was your Quinny div then on 'phantasy bookie wannabe'...a Grand? Did you even go to Bookyclass?

If, as you think, there appears to be no certified training for work Riders, even though it appears on the NZTR site... ...then it's a massive wake up call for trainers, yes? If Trainers fail to check a rider's CV as to their capability (tick training systems approved by the Industry's governing body) they're then asking for trouble...no matter how suitable they think a horse appears... Its like the boss of a Sparky Business sending a new employee to do a job with no qualifications/ experience,...even though the employee insists they're good to go isn't it?

Why do you bring Cindy into EVERY convo koppa? At least Cindy didn't try to do a 'Trump Greenland' buyout...and offer to buy the entire Pacific Islands...then mine the f out of it..including birdshit... ...oh soz...the birdshit option has already been done to death

His new iPhone supremo may have smell check...and he's improved the 'space' functionality of his dissertations...aside from a blip... But Goddy will simply take the 'Oatham' option of 'travel the length and breadth of NZ' to improve the overall consistency of integrity... ...in Goddy's case...that Includes baby sitting...to 'assist with the future racing generation' component of Integrity...yea

Maybe they don't have it down South? Its definitely a thing... Perhaps contact NZTR and ask about it... Perhaps they should send all of our young future Track Riders to Racing Vics school... ...Working holiday and study leave...win win

Au contrare mon ami.... Youre the legend...of epic proportions...eating that many chups does that.. ...besides, even though 2, or was it 3, of your niche nap betting system neddys were an abject failure... ...you somehow managed to resurrect the free fall to produce 167% ROI..or was it 267?...sight unseen...unbeknowns to anyone bar yourself... ...only GOATS, WIGJAMS and FIGJAMS can do that... Anyway...enough of talking about your fairy tales... ...this is about me...ok? TAKE THE TRICK was yet another of moi's well published BP's...excellent form on Premier day...back to R 65...off a long break with an excellent first up 3 rd in a stronger race...natural impwdtrovement... ...I'd rated this neddy as value at 7.5...I got on at 23's...one of THE best value investments of the year... ...got up on the line thanks to the App. allowance...and Daryl falling asleep... It was sweeter than the freshly killed Lamb and mint sauce I had last night... To top off one of THE best days of winter...and I'm ALL over winter...As indeed you claim... ENDLESS DRAMA was another standout..at Max units...where my BP recognised Arse form beats NZ form ...almost every time... ...I've constantly drummed that into you so much Bazz...you should be struck deaf mute by now... And then I totes LMAO when one of your Wag mates said... " I Aint got enough stats on that neddy to analyse such"!!! F me...no wonder you feel embarrassed coming here...with wacko stuff like that you must feel relly relly secure in your own skin amongst kindred plonkers... BTW...did you take your Sultan's advice and go for value today on all of the neddys planning to stay on the rails at Whangas?? Onya...totally f'd advice like that is why us winners exist... ...keep going hard on that... I am too...but in a far different hard...thanks to yous fellas

It's such a shame wee Al has been threatened with dismissal if he's going to be misogynistic again..to the mysogynists After poor Al was totes misinterpreted when he commented on Julia Gillard's father dying... "her poor father died of shame that he had such a lying daughter" Gay men usually get on well with Women as well..perhaps he's in the closet?

Gee soz Bazz...you sound so.... ..genuine and empathetic to someone....like me...who'd be embarrassed to even stand in your shadow Alor...and forgive moi for finding the need to tell you this...but it could help you to become even greater... Yesterday was an absolute MASTERCLASS from moi.... And I don't really need to tell you this...but...it was the BP rearing its head again!! AZABEAT started the rolling MASTERCLASS...this neddy was the 'fit horse' niche that was activated...or to simpletons...the 'back up' niche I don't wish to bore someone az great az you..but let me indulge the lesser beings out there...who're in denial Aza raced 6 days previously...checked soon after the start on a front bias course...but you already know that....it put in an excellent performance after that early set back...then widest on the turn...blinkers were back on Yesterday from the favoured ace draw...with the fresh ground...Aza took the trail...hooked out on the turn...and simply blitzed them...oh and the Danis 2 kgs helped... With Blinkers back on with the excellent effort last Sunday I assessed this neddy az excellent value at 22's... Can you imagine moi being flabbergasted to see the book at 34's then? My gobs still wide open...Imagine that? Wait I need a piss..back soon with more Masterclass news....

Not the only that but he's amazeballs at the great game as well...no not the bar girl game but the stick game... Nearly az good as the Great Leader even It’s where Kim Jong-il - current leader Kim Jong-un ’s father and predecessor - boasted he landed 11 holes-in-one during his very first round of golf in 1994.

Johnny Bell was az excited az a kid in slops yesterday...or is that a pig/ lolly shop? Hed heard NO Neddys az old az his pensioner had EVER been granted a place to race in HK...so he's resting on that laurel

Oh Pete! Was this before he got caught being a rigger or post troubles?

Can you stop encouraging loonies from changing the topic ffs? This is about HQ abrogating their responsibilities to the Thoroughbred Industry... i.e. To ACTUALLY have Race Meetings... not take 12 Week sabbaticals so their suits can go to Hawaii.... ...or race f in French Pooches up the birdcage stretch

Soz I missed this bazzo... But like last time...I'm sure you were being 2 faced... Would I have looked for a 2 faced bogan with chups hanging out of both sides of your massive gob...or just the chups on your shoulders?

Good luck with that Morty... ...but Methinks you know Earily is on Godber's side with the patsy questions he asks EVERY week... You could send him an email....Peter.Earley@nzrb.co.nz... ...or simply use his Twit handle...@Pearleypete...where he also takes questions...especially if he knows you're the real Kev.. I take it you're familiar with the Twit world?

The winner's barrier!! You Galah!

I'm sorry you can't understand.... I was replying to THE galah..you galah who appeared not to realise there IS a recognised training program for Track Riders here... ...employing a 'track rider' who hasn't been trained...as McKee did...is simply asking for trouble...and asking if their competence is "ok to go" with knowing their actual training is not up to H & S standards..clearly You're running a Zoo...would you ask a newbie to clean out the Tiger pen without finding if they've been trained in Tiger poo collection? You might

You simply can't beat Arsetralian Group 1 form....and this neddy had it...to go with recent residual fitness... ...not to mention the outstanding barrier trials... from both horses...1& 2 Theres no doubt the Shork is high class...just look at his sectionals...not to mentions using ones eyes.... ...but the barrier draw was crucial here...no need to mention that

This training is well covered in NZ now..NZTR basically copied Racing's Victoria training protocols... Trainers only have themselves to blame under the new H & S laws we now have.. Simply asking a young person if they've ridden before and accepting their word on how competent they are is asking for it... Its a tragic situation what's happened but at least the Trainers Association has taken ownership to inform their members on what is now required as a minimum standard... TRAINING OPTIONS National Certificate in Equine (Stable Procedures) (Level 3) With strands in harness racing stable assistant, thoroughbred racing stable assistant and thoroughbred racing track rider Duration: 17 - 19 months Suitable for people involved with horses in supervised roles as harness racing stable assistants, thoroughbred racing stable assistants and thoroughbred racing track riders. At the end of this qualification you will: Have knowledge and skills involved with care of the horse and saddlery Have knowledge of horse health, ill health, anatomy and conformation Be able to prepare for travel, exercise, handling and feeding Have knowledge of bringing a horse back into work and letting down Have knowledge of procedures used for horse exercise and the skills involved with working safely. National Certificate in Equine (Breeding) (Level 3) Duration: 17 - 19 months Suitable for people with some experience in the equine industry who want to develop the skills and knowledge required to work as stud assistants under supervision. At the end of this qualification you will: Have the skills to care for paddocked horses Know how to groom a horse, clean stables, analyse horse feed Be able to recognise health and ill health in horses Know how to deal with an emergency situation involving horses Be able to help foal a mare Be able to prepare yearlings for sales and attend sales. National Certificate in Equine (Level 4) With strands in thoroughbred jockey and thoroughbred advanced track rider Duration: 36 months Suitable for jockey’s and self-employed track work riders. At the end of this qualification you will: Have the skills to care for a horse, clean and maintain saddlery Be able to identify health, ill health, common ailments and lameness Be able to Prepare for travel, and care for horses in short-term accommodation Know how to prepare for exercise, handling and feeding Know how to bring a horse back into work and letting down Have knowledge of horse anatomy, horse feed analysis, emergency care, and a career in the equine industry Have knowledge of horse gear and procedures used for horse exercise. Jockey Strand The Jockey strand recognises the skills to exercise thoroughbred racehorses in an exercise saddle, ride thoroughbred horses in pacework on public training tracks, in barrier practice, at jump outs, in fastwork, at Official Trials to obtain a race day licence, and on race day seek race day rides, attend to horses at the races and handle during swabbing. Holders of the qualification with this strand will also have knowledge of nutritional requirements for a jockey, the racing industry judicial system, thoroughbred racing industry structure and judicial system, racetrack bylaws and problem gambling and drug use in the racing industry.