FeelTheFear

Makes too much sense. Would also cut into board members trough mentality if they had to do some mingling and promoting. What are membership initiatives like? Too many bored members? (see what I did there?)

Did well to finish 4th: PASABAHCE (R Elliot) - Held up near the 250 metres and did not obtain clear running until approaching the 100 meters.

They are all weather...you're welcome

Arawa Park race 10 Pasabahce won very nicely previous start. Weakened out last start but might bounce back here. If you can get $10+, currently at $15 TAB then worth a small bet

If Thomass gives then he will get back. You don't have to read the thread if it upsets you. It's all good

Guess the smoke and mirrors fella missed this. Class needs to be defined race by race and individual by individual. "One final word of advice; be cautious about believing everything you read, watch or listen to about horses and their supposed level of talent. Learn to make your own assessments by looking at key indicators such as the quality of opposition a horse defeats, how easily they do it, the quality of their times & sectionals, strength and speed in the run to the line and other traits that you objectively assess yourself. With experience you’ll avoid falling into horses that are overhyped in the market and gain good value by identifying others that are flying under the public radar." This should be good Wally... I'm always ready to learn, I'm on the Curious side of analysis but that's me.

Might have to make it PPV if you keep liking it Wally.

Once again you took it out of context. "There’s no doubt that many of these factors are important. Horses in good form win most races. Horse’s that can’t run the distance or lack race fitness or can’t handle the track condition won’t win. Distance Form 0 Starts – 0 Wins 23395 4270 18.3$ -7.0% 1 Start – 0 Wins 11970 2107 17.6% -5.8% 2 Starts – 0 Wins 6130 1016 16.6% -5.9% 3+ Starts – 0 Wins 7212 1144 15.9% -3.3% Previous Wins at Distance 1 Start – 1 Win 4798 1016 21.2% -5.5% 2 Starts – 1 or 2 Wins 5288 1010 19.1% -6.6% 3+ Starts 1 or 2 Wins 18668 3061 16.4% -6.4% 3+ Starts – 3+ Wins 6414 1055 16.4% -11.6% ...and so it goes. No real value in whether a horse has started over a distance and won or lost. Keep it up.

raw stats are meaningless Nobby betfair.com.au/hub/better-betting/betsmart-education/wagering-and-fundamentals/misleading-stats-part-1/

Actually you made the 'accurate' statement then distorted what you said. Are you related to Trump? The only way you could profit out of my betting is if I lost, I am in profit. I also bet with Crown Bet. As for track conditions, seeing how NZ tracks are crap, I don't rely on what may have been effective. Besides, just because a horse hasn't won in the conditions does not mean it won't in the future. It's meaningless like your waffle. Have a great day, I'm off to do some meaningful stuff.

Sorry Laxative, I listen to people who don't dribble...or distort things. Thomass: "The market is the accurate one...you should know this" mardigras: "The market is not the 'accurate' one otherwise I wouldn't profit" Tmomass: "I said "generally" the market is accurate" Anyway, I never said mine is the only way. Just pointed out that I don't need the 'riff raff' stats for it to work. At least I put my picks up before the race. Have a nice day.

It's very strange... I used to add things like trainer, track conditions, course and distance, weight etc to my ratings. Decided to make it easier so cut them out. Sticking to what each horse has done made no difference to my ratings. They still work well.

mardigras, good run first start then battled last start. Stepping up to 1600m and may be improver. Value at current $43.00

Ran 3rd to My Tommy at first race start in 2016, add an extra 5%.

Drawn barrier 2 and horses starting with the letter R from barrier 2 have a 35% strike rate if paying between $10 and $35.

Richie Rox race 3 ran a terrible race 18 lengths from winner when the blinkers were added last start. Blinkers off tomorrow. He is number 7, my lucky number so will add an extra 20%

Unfortunately many trainers not in the limelight do not get the best of horse flesh to work with. They hope to one day, mostly by sheer luck, have a horse good enough to win a few races, perhaps be something better than average. It is their lifestyle, training, breaking and conditioning. These are the battlers, once held up as the heart of horse racing. I have seen a trainer, battling with this type of situation, get a very good horse, suddenly owners want their horse trained by said trainer. Once the career of the horse is over and the trainers stats suffer, the owners dry up again and it is back to usual. Of course, I am speaking from the past so perhaps things have changed and these trainers are useless. As a punter, it is easy to cull a race day field of horses trained by such trainers, maybe miss one or two winners. Just my thoughts, no expert.

yes good late run. Will win soon

Wally, she could be right. I like the 3yo Hunua Hank, have been watching and improved run last start. I think 1600m will suit now, only at 6s at the moment but can't be left out.

One for longer odds, not quite $10+ but an improver is Into The Mystic at Matamata, race 7. Four runs in after a spell, the latest a good 4th after a 3rd placing at conditioning trial over hurdles. Wasn't far away for 4th, battled well and the drop back to 2000m may suit. Handles it wet. The 6yo currently at $9.30

Of course TDB, the reverse holds true as well and you will reimburse equivalent percentage in the unlikely event that the horse loses. Being the fair and just person we know you are.

Had to laugh "Why not an article about Wiremu venturing South for the first time to ride Oamaru tomorrow? " Just what we all need, gripping story no doubt.

thoroughbredracing.com/articles/tony-morriss-100-shapers-breed-tesios-masterpiece/

yes very nice CS, I got $3.00 win divvy on Crownbet.