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Anyone ever read the SAFE Facebook group. A lot of very jaundiced and bitter people, and when challenged, as like many on social media, they get very nasty. Farming of animals for food is a definite no no. The person who runs it, only ever refers to New Zealand as Aotearoa.

It's the way of the world for any customer of any product. When you purchase anything, you are always looking for the best deal for yourself. The welfare of the seller is not your concern. Buy NZ made, didn't work. The businesses that can't compete because of Temu etc etc etc

Are there any wagering sites that have a field that automatically displays the % for each market listed. Is that something Entain should do?

Very good Huey, I didn't realise you had a sense of humour

Greyhound racing industry takes court action 5:53 pm on 14 August 2025 Share this Share on Twitter Share on Facebook Share via email Share on Reddit Share on Linked In Bill Hickman, Journalist Bill.Hickman@rnz.co.nz Racing Minister Winston Peters has ordered a halt to greyhound racing from August 2026. Photo: PHOTOSPORT Lawyers for the Greyhound Racing Association have told the High Court in Wellington that the ban on greyhound racing will have a devastating effect on the livelihoods of more than 1000 people. Last December, Racing Minister Winston Peters announced the sport would be banned from August 2026. On Thursday, the association argued in court that the work of a ministerial advisory committee tasked with implementing the ban should be stopped, until a judicial review of the legislation was heard. Govt ignored industry improvements in animal welfare Lawyer Chris Finlayson said the government had erred in directing the industry to monitor and improve animal welfare standards, only to ignore the results in cabinet's decision-making process. The court was told the racing industry had engaged with three reviews of the sport in just over a decade and had consistently shown willingness to comply with directives to improve animal welfare, and controls surrounding injuries and deaths, as well as track standards and rehoming initiatives. He said the cabinet paper - on which the decision to ban the sport was based - was "misleading" and a "very selective characterisation" of the key issues facing cabinet, which he argued was the industry's animal welfare standards, not the erosion of public license - society's acceptance of the practices of the sport. Welfare standards applied with 'more rigour than pet dogs' Finlayson said the government - after directing the industry to undertake a statutory process and then "blandly ignore it" - contradicted its obligation to consider the expertise of the industry in legislating towards the sport. Lawyers for the Greyhound Racing Association (left to right) Chris Finlayson KC and Jonathan Kaye at the High Court in Wellington. Photo: RNZ/Bill Hickman "The standard of animal welfare of greyhound racing is high," Finlayson said. "It aligns with the standards in other jurisdictions and is applied with significantly more rigour than pet dogs." Finlayson said the uncertainty over the recommendations of the ministerial advisory committee's plan to wind down the sport was resulting in members of the industry leaving the country before the ban, a collapse in breeding numbers and serious mental-health issues in participants of the industry. He argued, after the ban, New Zealanders could still bet on Australian dog races, which had "equal or lesser" animal welfare standards than Aotearoa's racing industry. No jurisdiction to stop legislative process Counsel for the Attorney General - acting on behalf of the Minister of Racing - said interim relief application was "fundamentally premised on a need to stop the legislation". Lawyer Katherine Anderson said the action, if successful, "would frustrate the introduction of the bill to Parliament". She said it was "undeniably clear" the court could not make an order to prevent the introduction of a bill. "It's very clear that the applicant fundamentally [says] the decision is wrong and is attempting to draw you in." She said it was up to the Minister to decide "how and if" parties would be consulted before the bill was put to Parliament. Lawyers for the Attorney General - acting on behalf of the Minister of Racing - (left to right) Katherine Anderson and Emma Dowse at the High Court in Wellington. Photo: RNZ/Bill Hickman "There's no straight jacket on the minister to go to the racing industry saying, 'Is there a ban on greyhound racing that's required on welfare grounds?'. "They've been elected to make policy decisions and, if people don't like it, they can be un-elected," Anderson said. Throughout proceedings, Judge Dale La Hood pressed the Greyhound Racing Association's counsel to clarify how the action would benefit the industry, if it's success was not to prevent the ban. "You need to explain to me... what you're seeking to have... stopped, other than preventing a ban on greyhound racing. I don't know if I understand what the benefit of interim relief would be to your client, if it doesn't halt the ban. "That's crucial to my decision on whether you've got a case," La Hood said. Finlayson said he would undertake to clarify his client's intent in a memorandum to the judge after the day's proceedings. Judge La Hood reserved his decision.

Listed to ride Age of Discovery at 56.5 kg tomorrow

2026 Calendar not available January 2025 Thorndon Mile — 11 January 2025, Wellington (Trentham) NZTRTAB Levin Classic — 11 January 2025, Wellington (Trentham) NZTRTAB Telegraph Handicap — 11 January 2025, Wellington (Trentham) NZTRTAB Railway Handicap — 25 January 2025, Auckland (Ellerslie, as part of Karaka Carnival Day One) NZTRANZ Bloodstock News February 2025 Waikato Sprint — Group 1 — NZTR Otaki-Maori Weight-for-Age Classic — 22 February 2025, Otaki TAB

There is actually quite a large gap as to when the Spring carnivals in Aus finish mid Nov and when the Sydney Autumn carnival begins first week March, 3 3/4 months. So plenty of opportunities in NZ then.

It also means she is not eligible for the KM 3 year old race at a a very Aus competitive 1.5 mil. I'm not sure if this is a good or bad thing, as they will aim her for the 2,000 Guineas then straight off to Aus, so we will not get to see her race in NZ again. And I guess for all you old lags lol, one of the romantics attractions still of racing in NZ, is seeing top horses race here

Definitely not eligible for the Kiwi

Will be interesting to follow her and where they decide to first start. That $12 for the 1000 Guineas could disappear very quickly, so wise to get on now, based on TA's record. A small question mark still, is that first trial was on good footing and she ran a lonely last, whereas the 2 impressive trial wins have been on heavy tracks

Good on them, Ellerslie showed time works wonders. I see they have been advised by Liam O'Keefe the Flemington track manager for the last 9 months, so I guess they are doing all they can to get the track right. That of course won't shut up the usual suspects who advance without evidence I might add, that it is all part of a conspiracy to centralise racing in Auckland/Waikato. Racing needs to be strong not just in Auckland/Waikato, but Awapuni/Hawkes Bay/Taranaki/ Wellington regions as well as the South Island. Whoever could think for that not to be, as a viable business strategy has rocks in their head, not littering the Awapuni track lol

Moral of the story. Easy to work out the percentage the market is set at. If you don't like the prices, don't bet. There is always value to be found, this race is a perfect example, as is the other big jumping race today. Hot faves getting beaten just improves value elsewhere

Seems like the $34 offered by the corrupt and monopolistic TAB on 4 Aug (less deductions) is pretty good value now. Apparently, the winner could only come from the top 3 favourites that were at poor value lol

Talking about this NZTR Strengthens Track Advisory Programme with VRC Partnership NZTR has announced significant enhancements to its Regional Track Adviser (RTA) Programme for the 2025-26 racing season, including a partnership with the Victoria Racing Club. New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing | August 07, 2025 The VRC and its Head of Racecourse, Liam O’Keeffe, will now support NZTR and racing Clubs across New Zealand. New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing (NZTR) has announced significant enhancements to its Regional Track Adviser (RTA) Programme for the 2025-26 racing season, including a partnership with the Victoria Racing Club (VRC). The VRC and its Head of Racecourse, Liam O’Keeffe, will now support NZTR and racing Clubs across New Zealand. VRC Head of Racecourse, Liam O’Keeffe. Providing turf consultancy services for an average of five days per month, the partnership will deliver knowledge sharing across maintenance and renovation planning, construction and turf management, track inspections, audits, and raceday surface preparation. The partnership is designed to share international best practices and elevate track management standards across New Zealand. “The VRC is thrilled to provide turf expertise to NZTR Track Managers, sharing our insights into the world-class standard of Flemington Racecourse,” said Leigh Jordon, Chief Racing Officer at the VRC. O’Keeffe will consult with Regional Track Advisers, as part of a partnership that reflects NZTR’s commitment to strengthening track infrastructure and improving surface consistency across all racing venues. NZTR Chief Executive Officer Matt Ballesty commented on the appointment. “Bringing in the expertise of the VRC and Liam is a major step forward for our track programme, and the partnership is about strengthening local talent and addressing the areas where we know improvement is needed.” “We’re fortunate to have experienced and highly skilled Track Managers across the country, and Liam will work alongside them to provide additional support, share international insights, and help us continue lifting standards nationally for the long-term benefit of the industry,” Ballesty said. The RTA Programme continues to serve as a critical support network for Club Track Managers. While Track Managers remain responsible for delivering a safe racing surface, RTAs provide mentoring and advisory support and meet regularly with NZTR to plan and review upcoming racing activity. 2025-26 Track Adviser Club Assignments Jason Fulford (Auckland Thoroughbred Racing) – Avondale JC, Racing Te Aroha and Whangarei RC. Bart Cowan (Waikato Thoroughbred Racing) – Matamata RC, Racing Rotorua, Racing Taupō and Racing Tauranga. Jamie Phillips (RACE Inc.) – Foxton RC, Hawke’s Bay RI, Ōtaki-Māori RC, Waipukurau JC, Wairarapa RC and Woodville-Pahiatua RC. Colin Cromarty (Waverley Racing Club) – Egmont RC, Taranaki TR and Wanganui JC. Alan Chapman (Canterbury Jockey Club) – Ashburton RC, Greymouth JC, Kumara RC, Reefton JC and Timaru JC. Wayne Stevens (Otago RC) – Central Otago RC, Gore RC, Kurow JC, Oamaru JC, Riverton RC and Southland RC.

Be good clarify, is it 50/50 GBR or 50/50 gross profit. Surely it has to be the latter. Entain's costs in NZ, advertising for a start must be several million dollars. This all has to be paid before there is any 50/50 divvy up. Also TAB NZ's running costs. As you say, a lot of this negativity about Entain is hard to understand and must surely be based on ignorance. Many things in life are not ideal, but the alternative, would have seen the start of the end for racing in NZ

Many things we will never know about the Entain contract, until 2028 and beyond. Many things we will also never know, about what the other 2 contenders for outsourcing were offering. I suspect not as big a carrot as Entain. Many things also again that we will not know about how much say Entain has with TAB NZ, NZTR and HRNZ, in where the money is spent. Considering Entain potentially has a lot to lose, I would say a hell of a lot. Sometimes is does not seem that way with the focus on raising stakes at the expense, in thoroughbred's case, of addressing tracks.

Just re-capping The Q1 22/23 results, indicated that at that rate of performance, the payout to the codes would have had to drop by 25%. Can you imagine the bleating from an industry very prone to bleat about anything. Mike Tod then got busy, and within 6 months had found 3 prospectives to take on outsourcing of the TAB's wagering and broadcasting function, with Entain being ultimately selected. Entain have underwritten the racing industry for 5 years, with 200 mil guaranteed in the last year. They really can do what they like, parts of the industry will bleat whatever they do. But they have to be turning a gross profit or gross betting (I can't recall which it is), of 400 mil plus, after the 5 years is up, to keep the same level of payout. I guess the issue that some have, is where that extra money has gone, but TAB NZ decides that, I presume in consultation with Entain and NZTR/HRNZ

Michael Hawke, who I've got to know quite well, was also chopped, but mysteriously allowed back in after a month or so, must be a cooling off time period. Yes, AI generated stuff is saturating FB groups and also YouTube. Some of it is quite good, but fake and therefore frivolous

You've been chopped. I know somebody else that the same thing happened to them. You're not missing much anyway. The site is a disgrace and a gives social media sites a bad name. It is infested and dominated by a SMALL number of conspiracy theorists and racing malcontents that pop up to support each other when they are challenged, including the site admin (found that out pretty quickly). They make a lot of noise, giving people the impression everyone in racing is like that.

From Ex Trainers and Jockeys Facebook group, 9 days old though John Gartshore 4 September at 18:38 Ok some good news at last , Richard Yuill has been taken out of coma but still heavily sedated, eyes open , eyes still clear , still squeezing close family and friends hands , but most importantly I hear he’s been moved from intensive care to high dependence ward and breathing on his own ..... champion better than Winx

From a chap called John Gartshore on a Facebook site called Ex Trainers and Jockeys John Gartshore Richard has a hip operation recently, apparently he was in the stables somewhere and was knocked of balance by a horse , he fell and hit his head , suspected brain bleed , will know more tomorrow, very serious, wishing him a speedy recovery John Gartshore Update on yullie.... doctors bought him around today, started to fit so put him back into induced coma , they will consider trying again tomorrow... fight like we know you can mate , you can do this John Gartshore New update on Richard Yuill, unfortunately he has had a stroke , scans been done , family with Richard and doctors now , fight ya wee bugger fight

Are you totally devoid of any common sense, we wouldn't let Thomass or that other despicable character Mk2, anywhere near the new site. You probably were not around back in Dec/Jan, Thoroughbred alone on this site was running at 2,500 posts per month(double RC), probably a tenth of that now, they all left thanks to Thomass, why on earth would we allow that to be repeated. We have free speech, we just expect it to be delivered in a respectful manner. If you were actually sitting in a room meeting with some of the people who this site slags off, and engaged in the disrespectful rhetoric that some in particular do, you would be shown the door, come back maybe, when you have learnt some basic manners. And some on here, are so far deluded, they believe this site could become the voice of the industry.....give me a break Anyway, love to post the link to the new site, but can't. This was our first Saturday on the new platform, and it went extremely well. Comps, tips, punters club, debate on racing, so if that's what you're after, instead of the crap that now mostly pervades this site, you will have to find your own way there.

Enjoy things while you can, my estimation, would be that this site will not be here by the end of the year, and you won't be joining our site....PERIOD

Deluded The only reason I visit this site, once populated by many interesting and varied contributors, is to check that the village idiot is still posting Because if he is, then every day he posts, is a day closer, to the day, this site fades into anonymity. 95% of you all know this is true, the other 5% are morons, and who cares what they think. By the way, where is the Punter's Club fellas. Never happen will it, no one has got what it takes, easier just to be destructive, than do anything positive