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From Ex Trainers and Jockeys Facebook group, 9 days old though John Gartshore 4 September at 18:38 Ok some good news at last , Richard Yuill has been taken out of coma but still heavily sedated, eyes open , eyes still clear , still squeezing close family and friends hands , but most importantly I hear he’s been moved from intensive care to high dependence ward and breathing on his own ..... champion better than Winx

From a chap called John Gartshore on a Facebook site called Ex Trainers and Jockeys John Gartshore Richard has a hip operation recently, apparently he was in the stables somewhere and was knocked of balance by a horse , he fell and hit his head , suspected brain bleed , will know more tomorrow, very serious, wishing him a speedy recovery John Gartshore Update on yullie.... doctors bought him around today, started to fit so put him back into induced coma , they will consider trying again tomorrow... fight like we know you can mate , you can do this John Gartshore New update on Richard Yuill, unfortunately he has had a stroke , scans been done , family with Richard and doctors now , fight ya wee bugger fight

Are you totally devoid of any common sense, we wouldn't let Thomass or that other despicable character Mk2, anywhere near the new site. You probably were not around back in Dec/Jan, Thoroughbred alone on this site was running at 2,500 posts per month(double RC), probably a tenth of that now, they all left thanks to Thomass, why on earth would we allow that to be repeated. We have free speech, we just expect it to be delivered in a respectful manner. If you were actually sitting in a room meeting with some of the people who this site slags off, and engaged in the disrespectful rhetoric that some in particular do, you would be shown the door, come back maybe, when you have learnt some basic manners. And some on here, are so far deluded, they believe this site could become the voice of the industry.....give me a break Anyway, love to post the link to the new site, but can't. This was our first Saturday on the new platform, and it went extremely well. Comps, tips, punters club, debate on racing, so if that's what you're after, instead of the crap that now mostly pervades this site, you will have to find your own way there.

Enjoy things while you can, my estimation, would be that this site will not be here by the end of the year, and you won't be joining our site....PERIOD

Deluded The only reason I visit this site, once populated by many interesting and varied contributors, is to check that the village idiot is still posting Because if he is, then every day he posts, is a day closer, to the day, this site fades into anonymity. 95% of you all know this is true, the other 5% are morons, and who cares what they think. By the way, where is the Punter's Club fellas. Never happen will it, no one has got what it takes, easier just to be destructive, than do anything positive

That's strange Doug, I searched my name on the site, and it only comes up once, your post, about 2 hours ago.

I did post earlier on that he had nothing to do with it hesi Members 1,739 2,449 posts Posted 11 hours ago First post in a while Barry, I'm straining Nothing to do with the VI in this case Barry These forums are many things to different people, punters clubs, comps, tipping threads and serious debate on racing issues. None are mutually exclusive. For all the talk on free speech, there is another principle that seems to have been ignored here, looking after the people that contribute to your site. No one should have to endure personal abuse in doing that(that is some peoples version of fun) That's the reason the Punter's Club is moving, along with a few other things.

Please Doug, playing the victim card again Might catch a few, but you are the author of your own destiny. Many people have not liked the way you have run BOAY, and voted with their feet. By the way, I cannot recall giving you permission to publish my name, so it appears that is one principle that has gone by the wayside. Hedley, I'm sure someone will send you the link to RP, it won't be me sorry. I've copped enough opprobrium from some of the non-thinking hypocrites on this site.

Just to set the record straight, purely for the few people that now follow BOAY, and my own integrity The term you said was used by Barry, was self immolation. I asked you to point out the post where that was said, which you failed to respond to. Had you responded, the post would have been deleted. So probably a good idea to state facts, rather than the fantasy stuff of the world you live in Barry is a good guy, gets a bit ropey at times, but I like him, and unlike you, he puts his money where his mouth is.....before the race He has the choice of where he can post Unfortunately, you have a bit of a predicament coming up, when this site is shut down........you have nowhere to express yourself, I suppose you could always buy an old raincoat and hang around Gillies Ave at 3pm(doesn't bear thinking about) Scooby would not allow you within a million miles of RC, and we would never allow you on TRP. Enjoy it while you can

First post in a while Barry, I'm straining Nothing to do with the VI in this case Barry These forums are many things to different people, punters clubs, comps, tipping threads and serious debate on racing issues. None are mutually exclusive. For all the talk on free speech, there is another principle that seems to have been ignored here, looking after the people that contribute to your site. No one should have to endure personal abuse in doing that(that is some peoples version of fun) That's the reason the Punter's Club is moving, along with a few other things. Keep it going though, VI, with your lewd and obnoxious garbage, we are quite happy, everyday you post, turns a few more off this site, and that is potentially to our benefit

Hi NM Sorry but. We put forward a proposal via a PM to effectively combine the 2 sites. Firstly, it was made public without permission Secondly, it was treated with contempt, by being described as 'demands' End of story really, would you or anyone do anything different. It or anything else won't be offered again. We had a really good day yesterday. You guys have some really good posters still on here, we also have some very good posters. A shame there cannot be synergy, but that is the way it is

A cheap shot, coming from the guy that supposedly holds privacy so highly, that he took it upon himself to publish a PM from me without permission

Lighten up Maxi, you'll still be welcome, Chris always puts up a good prize too. Besides, by one of the 'crew' dropping in every so often, that will give Doug the perfect reason to keep Thommo on hold, and keep quite a few of you happy. Not sure who the 'crew' is anyway, I know I'm definitely one

As I've said DB, small but quality steps, there are some excellent and passionate posters on TRP. Chris joined the other day, and I have already asked him(and he has agreed) if he will run his iconic MC comp. Would you back against us making a go of it, knowing some of the history of the last 12 months, and we are only 10 weeks old! Anyway DB, you have called it wrong before, and I'm not going to go into detail, or it could well compromise your privacy, which I have always respected.

Actually, run my own business, and before that an industrial chemist with responsibility for 20 staff. But I do spend a lot of time whitebaiting according to Barry, who has actually turned out in the end to quite like me now, and I quite like him too. Puts his money where his mouth is, like me, unlike you

Maxi, I honestly believe you are spending too much time underground. Have had some quite acerbic dialogue with 2 other people who thought like you. They eventually saw things in a different light and joined TRP, and I believe still contribute to BOAY. So that bit of time above ground may well do your thinking good, and even though you are doing your darndest to burn a few bridges, you will always be welcome to join TRP and contribute.......... and I promise I will guarantee not to alienate you

Not sure of where it has got to with John and TC, whether you are continuing or not in the comp semis But regardless of what else has been said I believe it is owed to PJ out of respect, to finish off the current comp, then your obligations are over After all, none of this is of PJ'S. making

For what you believe were good intentions and actions Doug, the inescapable fact is, you have managed to alienate a number of people who have made substantial contributions, other than just posting, to the site.

Give it a rest will ya Maxi. I said probably my last post, but felt the need to support N1MUE and TC, seeing as I asked them to run comps on BOAY in the first place

Touche And I did quite a bit of arm twisting to get PJ to bring his comps here, and John and TC to initially run comps on here(which they did admirably), and also a fair bit of vouching for John and TC's unquestioned integrity, such that they could run comps here, which meant Comp moderation rights. Anyone that knows John and TC through their dealings with them on these comps, knows that inferring in public their honesty and integrity was in anyway in question, was always going to bring the house tumbling down

Just to clarify All those proposals have been withdrawn, and were so, the moment you started playing your little games. Good luck with Thomass

Slipping in your principles with respect to privacy Doug, normally very good on that That was a private PM from me, and there is nowhere that I have agreed to it's publication

Mmmmmmmmm 43 posts on Thomass 1 post on NZRB Half year This came out yesterday morning, but no one has posted it, all too busy 'debating' Thommo The Informant - Latest Update Yesterday, 07:21 AM The Informant's Future Dear subscriber, Early last week a difficult decision was made to cease publishing The Informant. This included both our print and digital editorial as well as our form guide content. As many of our subscribers would have read in our pages each week things need to change for our racing industry to survive as evidenced by the Messara report. Unfortunately, like for many others in the industry, that change isn’t coming fast enough. The response however to our decision has been nothing short of a groundswell with stakeholders at all levels offering their support and belief that we as a publisher still very much have a place in the industry. As such we are currently working through our options and are optimistic that an industry backed solution can be found. We ask our subscribers for their patience at this time and will communicate further changes in the short term. Regards, Matthew Francis Racing Media NZ

He posts so often and people quote him so often, that it is not a workable option. What are you going to do Des, block anyone that quotes him as well

Key point Brian, some very intelligent people and some major contributors to the site This thread in itself is example of the damage done....another thread on whether Thomas should stay or go instead of debating racing issues. We have put a proposal to the Chief, about coming back on board, and bringing our considerable and proven energies, but I'm afraid none of it is inclusive of Thomass, so it probably will not happen It would see also quite a few known dissenters return, plus those unknown ones that have lost interest in the site because of the usually inane drivel, that has become a feature of Thoroughbred. We'll plod on with our site, regardless of the resistance towards it and what we have tried to make it stand for. If it can establish itself, all well and good, if not then as I have said before, at least we gave it a go. As an interesting note, if you were sitting there on RC, and you wanted to damage your main competitor, what would be the best way.....beware of Greeks bearing gifts