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6 winners on the inside the other 3 winners 3 out. almost 4 with Gigi

Factors you may have overlooked or not given sufficient weighting to. Tweaking your evolving algorithm or system or whatever it is you use. I don't use one because I rarely bet these days, but still an interesting topic

Would the benefit of AI to horse racing and wagering, being able to use its processing power to for example analyse the many factors of all horses in a race, such as weight, barrier, sectionals in previous races, jockey, track conditions, track, trial form, unlucky runs etc etc etc to determine the most likely winner. Much the same as many punters do manually. When a $30 outsider wins, you can quite often review its form and find a reason why it was going to run so well

The first question was posed over a year ago Pretty substandard Who won the 1997 NZ Derby ChatGPT said: The 1997 New Zealand Derby, a horse racing event, was won by a horse named Summer Knight. The New Zealand Derby is a prestigious horse race held annually at Ellerslie Racecourse in Auckland, New Zealand. Keep in mind that my information is accurate up to January 2022, and I recommend checking more recent sources for any updates or changes. You said: Who won the 1997 NZ Derby (asked just now) ChatGPT said: The winner of the 1997 New Zealand Derby (run on 26 December 1997) was Marlow. If you’d like, I can also give you the placegetters or info about the horse and connections. You said: Is that the thoroughbred Derby ChatGPT said: Yes — the New Zealand Derby is a Thoroughbred classic race. To clarify: The 1997 New Zealand Thoroughbred Derby at Ellerslie was won by Marlow. This is the Group 1 race for 3-year-old Thoroughbreds run each December. If you want, I can also tell you the placegetters, the trainer, jockey, or race details. You said: Yes ChatGPT said: Great — here are the 1997 New Zealand Thoroughbred Derby details: 🏆 Winner: Marlow 🎓 Placegetters: 1st: Marlow 2nd: Love de Game 3rd: So Casual 📍 Race Details: Date: 26 December 1997 Venue: Ellerslie Racecourse Race: Group 1 NZ Derby (2400m) for 3-year-olds 👤 Connections: Trainer: Mark Walker Jockey: Opie Bosson If you want, I can also give you details about any other Derby year or the horses involved. You said: No it was Zonda ChatGPT said: You're absolutely right — the 1997 New Zealand Derby was won by Zonda. Here are the correct details: 🏆 1997 New Zealand Derby (Thoroughbred) Winner: Zonda Jockey: Lance O’Sullivan Trainer: Dave & Paul O’Sullivan Date: 26 December 1997 Venue: Ellerslie Racecourse Zonda was a highly regarded son of Zabeel, and his Derby win is still remembered as one of the most impressive of the era. Thanks for the correction — and if you'd like info on any other Derby or horse, just let me know!

Well at the moment it falls well short of accurately collecting facts, so the addition of narrative is essentially a waste of time. I have found it useful at collecting a range of references to a subject I might be looking at.

I think it is best to keep monitoring how accurate it is. We have seen with this thread, it was full of mistakes, therefore that puts a question mark over the total accuracy of the reply. I can recall using AI over a year ago and it was poor. Huey gave you a like, is that a first

I would agree with that. The best option is to test it out on a subject you know well. When it is wrong though, challenge it and it will auto correct

No, a blend of both

Breeding is also wrong and not standing at Waikato Stud

You have to be wary with AI, quite often gets it wrong, eg 3. **Cool Aza Beel** (Savabeel - Miss Delighted) * **Purchase:** 2020 NZB Karaka Book 1. Bought for **NZ$400,000** (a joint-venture with Brendan and Jo Lindsay). * **Achievement:** Won the New Zealand Derby (G1). Standing at **Waikato Stud**, his success is a direct product of Ellis buying a top Savabeel colt.

All the more reason they should get creative and have a whole range of food trucks on course. Knowing how negative people are in racing, I'm sure they will find a reason not to. Imagine, Ellerslie could turn both Boxing Day and New Years Day infield into a race day food truck extravaganza. Every gourmet food, different ethnic food you could think of. Might even be worth going, maybe not, might run into the Dog, that would spoil it lol

Better than a stale ham sandwich

Well done, a bit of innovative thinking there. They could also extend the packages to the less formal situations like the outdoor picnics. There are lots of top-quality food trucks around these days that would love to get the opportunity to provide food on a racecourse

Year Stake No of starters 2018 100k 8 2019 100k 13 2020 100k 14 2021 110k 12 2022 140k 7 2023 175k 8 2024 175k 8 2025 175k 7

And they do a very poor job of it; in fact you could not call it competing. This is when it all started to go wrong in the 1990's when others started actively competing for the entertainment/hospitality dollar. The whole concept of a 'day at the races' is a very attractive proposition, but you have to actively market that to the general unwashed, not just for 6 weeks, but year in year out

Abit roughhouse, now there is a name from the past. I recall you did indeed run a lot of competitions. That was in the days when comps were not deemed important to chat sites, so you usually got the bum's rush from his nibs if things went wrong lol I think these days they add a bit of light relief to the sterner world of vigorous debate. I recall when I was helping Chief Stipe (CS) with the site when it was first set up, we ran a comp and within 2 weeks of starting the site, we got 38 entrants. I recall it vividly, as someone commented on it.

We have one loss of traction and it usually means the meeting is called off, not that I am saying that is wrong. How often in the past have slips, loss of traction etc etc been undetected or overlooked.

You have to remember the bar has been raised substantially with the H&S legislation and the improved video coverage on social media. Everyone is an expert on tracks now

I think the term Red Neck Cafe is apt

Still a hard road, that Aus market is very hard to break into. Don't quote me, but I think many of the other NZ trainers that have gone over there have taken several years to make their mark as they establish the contacts and clientele

Pathetic aren't they, then again Herlihy on the FB site is not much better, questioning the integrity of the stipes is getting onto dangerous ground. Just keep it ticking CS, some nice numbers of people who read the threads, and with all the other things planned................

How long before sports want more?

Anyway, we don't really know. What we do know, is that a lot more people are using the 2 TAB apps to bet on sports. It is good exposure that racing has to try and find a way of leveraging into

If the times are to be believed, Waitak won

Agree, nor would they understand the concept of value, they would lose overall but be happy to get a collect. Put a figure on it, say 95%. The point is, lots of new punters are getting to know that the TAB exists because of sports, simply because there are many more followers of sport in NZ than racing. This must bring more exposure to racing and the point I was making in that the young want instant gratification, which racing offers with a race and potential collect over in 5-10 min