Gammalite

No don't know that one , see Clinton Hall got 5 years recently though ,for something. Brother of Champion driver Gary Hall Jnr. Maybe it would of been a ''good strategy ' to put the horses in his missus name ? (If it was training rather than driving related disqualification lol...)

Not sure who hubby is ? There was an incident with racefixing involving a leading driver Nathan Jack at one stage , but Amanda was acquitted eventually

KING Of SWING has always been good Mikie, I tried to lead with that at the start By Reminding everyone about his great record as a young horse culminating in the GROUP 1 win for Ray at Melton. Luke has ALWAYS been a great trainer. started out in 2003 with just seven horses , and won 90 races between them, one was SLIPnSLIDE another was FOR A REASON who won heaps. He is the Real deal, and No surprise to see the great results this year ( AND all the past 17 Years too !!! ) great job Luke !

And just one other thing . Pete McMullen has the horses in his wifes name in QLD here. They win a lot of races and Chantel drives some too. I respect them greatly , and LOVE Petes driving ability !! But it is 'brilliant' and 'not a bad stategy' to race in just one of their names. I HATE the idea that occasionally Pete is driving freelance AGAINST a horse he might be training with Chantel on occasion. YES I agree that is a rort and shouldn't be allowed !!! lol. By order of judge Gammalite ! but am sure they won't change it lol

Why pick on me Mikie ? I've answered your question about KING of SWING s form in the west with Halls to the best of my knowledge, and now you attack me about syringes and improving horses 8 seconds. Do you think I am doing the race day treatments for them? pull your head in mate. We were discussing Why The horses are not racing in Lukes name I didn't say I agreed with it Mikie. You obviously don't. No need to attack me. Doesn't mean it's not a good stategy. It's LEGAL and they are doing it and it has paid off already.

Brilliant as in Brilliant Business Management obviously. Luke is the VITAL component of that set-up (with TODD and ANDREW both stars in the USA now. So play it safe with horses in Belinda's name. and now Craig Cross. with respect to Belinda and Craig the juggernaut continues and continued with or without them. Not to hard to work out that is not a bad strategy ?? has already paid off once.

Lloyd Williams has been Refused the Trainers Licence everytime he applied to The VRC. (Don't know why as had dollars, a beautiful setup at Macedon Lodge, second to none knowledge of good horses esp Mel Cup ones lol) That created all the 'pseudo trainer' nonsense. As for the Hall trainers in WA . King of Swing probably not suited to that tight turning Gloucester Park track. But don't worry they are brilliant outfit 'Consortium" as well with old 'Dad" still getting training credit. Of course I'm the Mighty Quinn and Chicago Bull (very small horses compared to KOSwing) have won more races between them that you or I could only dream of. ...... sigh they are super good ...........

Absolutely Mikie, this is common . Luke for many years had the horses in his wifes name. Belinda listed Trainer. Belinda credited with near 100 G1 wins actually! BUT in 2017 the positive swab came up , she's out for a year (but who cares) , The Superstable continues as if nothing happened. Brilliant !!! Horses plonked in CRAIG CROSS name thereafter, some kiwi bloke no one knows. Business as usual for Luke when next positive turns up. Craig can go back there to NZ for a nice years break? lol.... WHO came up with the Stupid idea of training partnerships ? better one name (say for example Mark Purdon) and if a positive comes up (e.g Horses all go in Nat's name as trainer, Mark moves in with Roy for a year) Business as usual !!! Brilliant !!

g'day Blossom, unfortunately the FBI have not made me privy to any drugs supply information. I am retired now but still love the sport and enjoy the big races ! Yes Luke is going gangbusters. Phenomenal strike rate. Unfortunately for the locals here in QLD he popped up a team last week , and won 4 out of 6 races and last night 4 out of 7 (with 3 narrow seconds) thankfully three of our best young drivers did well to pip him 3 times Nathan Dawson, Shane Graham and Pete McMullen saving the day. phew ! I Sincerely hope you are enjoying the NZ racing these days. Not as bad as Forbury makes out lol.....

And just an addition to this description of race driving is the fact you are often reliant on what the other runners around you are doing. Will they cart you into the race if you trail them? How well is the one i'm following going? Do I need to ease out now before they come from the back? Endless quick decisions in every race. It's nice to draw one, trail the leader to you turn for home, sprintlane and win !!! lol no thinking needed lol.

hahaha that is crazy funny Davis. You are a positive see the best in people person (but possibly a sarcastic one hahaha) and that is funny beyond words. very good. If 4bury is a passionate harness racing supporter then NZ harness racing in great hands ! ? lol... or not ....lol Sheree , Mark, Andrew, Jessica and others all having a go on the track , it's a very very competitive sport, usually only one winner per race, and it is jolly hard work to be that winner too. Good luck to all of them.

Wow !! that is a great stat . Hope you can find me a foal out of that mare Karrots ! have a spare million? lol King Of Swing and Bettor Twist are absolutely smashing it . FUN FACT the broodmare is TWIST AND TWIRL and Mark took her to Victoria in winter 2012 . she won 5 times and was 2nd in the Group 1 Breeders crown to another kiwi Cheer The Lady trained by his brother I think?

Hahaha yes a "Consortium' Effort with the training of the"Superstable" .The Aus equivalent of Allstars ? Luke keeps his name OFF the trainers list so he can 'Freelance 'drive. Chris Alford does this in Vic with success and Pete McMullen up here in QLD as well. (horses trained in wifes name) Incidently Pete drove a fantastic race to beat Luke and also Grant Dixon's star 3 yearold last night at big odds in a three year old feature. Pete is amazing driver.

the King is swinging Bigtime Hunter ! he's a monster in his races at the moment. Not sure with ChaseAuckland what is doing. But did see I'm Anothermasterpiece won last night , his third win in six starts since going to Vic from Allstars in September. Hey ,Thanks for the tip with DUKE, he raced Wednesday and 2nd beaten 1/2 head at Redcliffe. close !

Cogratulations to NZ for producing the star KING OF SWING (Ray Green won a big race (crown) in Melbourne with him a couple of years ago), maybe Ray will get heaps with his latest star American Dealer there? what a fine horseman.! He just now donkey Licked the GROUP 1 Queensland Championship field at $1.50. Luke McCarthy (driving like Mark P )with 4 wins and 3 seconds from his 7 races tonight. Our local hope COLT THIRTY ONE a distant second , and TURN IT UP from Nz running third. KING OF SWING this year since joining McCarthy has 10 wins (including the Miracle mile) and 3 seconds from 13 starts . What a horse he is !!! more to come you would think

Good on you for having a go and some fun out on the track ! Don't worry about the criticism too much about what you are doing. A few of these blokes/sheilas in these threads think they can outdrive Mark Purdon , lol....the greatest trainer the country has ever seen. Hilarious ! You , my friend ,are on a hiding to nothing , unless you can improve on Marks efforts?? lol

In the quote you have used there Hunter, it says quote from Gammalite, " I would trail the good horse BEYOND WORDS in a heartbeat". Nothing about handing lead to any old mug . lol YOU made that up for some reason , bit of a good sport?

Because Mark is a great Judge in a race. How do you think he gets such Amazing results. I would trail the good horse BEYOND WORDS in a heartbeat as you get a cosy trip , Taken right into the race, every possible chance to win, horse gets a breather in the run, Would be planning my victory celebration !! but BW was too good up the straight unfortunately. (ok for me as took $20 Quinella) Amazing Dream has had some wide tough runs lately?? surely deserved a nice cosy trail for a change? lol

course it was planned, you can plan to trail someone you know ??? how does that make it race fixing.? Remember the running of a race has Nothing to do with a horses odds. !!! Since when has Trailing the leader been such a bad position in the running??? used to be the death seat was where not to be if you wanted to be in the finish (unless you are pure Steel or Gammalite lol) (one poster did describe the turn for home at Alex park not ideal as compared to Addington which is interesting? bigger track though?)

A great nights racing Karrots ! Allstars only getting 3 out of 4 of the features. American Dealer upsetting the applecart because he is the real 'Deal" ! lol Glad someone is enjoying the races instead of grizzling about cheating and think they know better than Mark himself , how to drive his own horses .hehe I wish he drove Ashley Locaz so I could of got my Quinella ? lol

That was truly terrible Hunter. Vicki Rasmussen got a year off training and brilliant young drivers Shane Graham and Leonard Cain did time. Shane just back after 2 years off , for one of those silly hand up the lead scenarios. Very poor decision. Leonard only 18 at the time and just following the race 'Plan" (maybe he wins the G1 tonight?) All the horses had every chance to win in that Albion race , just like Amazing Dream and Beyond Words last night.

I guess its the definition of the serious charge of race fixing v the usual race pattern of "Race Plan". Llyod Williams bought lots of stayers over the years to win Melbourne Cups. In lead up races often a tearaway pacemaker would sacrifice itself out in front to suit a stablemate back in the pack. This to me is race fixing. The leader ran last , the Williams other runner nearly wins. Not every runner had a chance from the stable in those races. Amazing dream and Beyond Words both had Every Chance of winning.

Thank you for your calculated response Galah. Forbury already descended into name calling and bullying. pretty poor form. You are wrong to decide How Mark should drive his horses. Based on your opinion of horses abilities and horses odds. It's not as easy as that. Mark knows better than you or I on race tactics (by a furlong or 2) Of course you have some sort of plan about a race before you go out in it? You didn't like his PLAN so you call it race fixing? thats just wrong. wrong wrong. Most races jockeys/ drivers are given some instructions YES ? surely you agree to that at least. According to your arguement , that's race fixing? OF course the 'Plans" don't work out all the time or we would all be retired with millions of dollars. Mark's plan gave Amazing Dream Every Hope to win. Had an amazing dream trail , yes?

Gee i hope the Galah and the abusive special race driver Forbury read this and have a reality check. Amazing Dream HAD every possible chance in the world to win. Galah and Forbury are horrified that a PRE-race plan was to trail the stable-mate ,while they think only because of it's price and their perceived ability of the 2 horses, Amazing Dream should Lead and Win. OF COURSE you go out in a race and have some sort of plan, Crazy If you don't. ? give your horse every chance behind the leader and Mark chalks up another great drive. Forbury (already hating before this) and Galah are calling Foul and race fixing, because the Champion trails the leader and they think that wasn't what they think he should do ??? Don't forget to post Mark your driving tactics forbury, Galah, , for every race, so he knows what you want him to do! over 35 years driving, maybe he knows best what to do to win a race ??? ??

Why? what merits is that? Why have you decided Amazing Dream is better than the ever improving Beyond Words? Tonight he beat her on merit and sure Not by much. I've driven in a thousand races and can tell you it is quite permissable to take a trail on a rival, especially MORE SO in this case when Mark KNEW IT WOULD cart him right up to the sprint lane? An intelligent drive, and AS USUAL a great result for ALLSTARS. Your horse generally can relax that little bit more in a trailing position and not be rattled by someone taking on the leader if that were to eventuate, but talking race driving with you and Forbury is a forlorn task it seems.