curious

Don't know what in the rules allows for that. It's based on riding days isn't it?

How so?

Don't you have washing machines down there?

Sorry but I can't be bothered corresponding with them any more.

I'll do it but I need the ad from someone please.

Yep. Same photo showing SYB in front.

The noseband to the eyes has nothing to do with it. The other horse's nostril is over the line when PI's is just on it.

Looked pretty clear to me.

Yes. It's a photo of the finish. Not the actual photo finish photo so you can't tell anything from that.

I know but where is the line?

I don't see the line in that photo?

to me it seems a bit like Burger King contracting out their pricing to McDonalds

Isn't that part of the problem. The system generated odds are being generated by competitors for the same punter losses? Fail to see how that can work.

Why don't they do that? This is when they could get away with putting up a 128% market. No competition at all.

Not a great excuse when fields were out last Thursday.

Went to have a bet at Otaki on Monday. No prices. They miss out again.

A bowl? Sounds like a bucket and I don't think the govt will fill it up again.

Was having a few bets at Gulftream this morning. Thought I'd check their prices and give them a shot. Got this: RACE ABANDONED - NO NZ BETTING Makes me think they must really want it and a few more grand of turnover goes off shore.

What might be worse is it could be both Freda and that wouldn't surprise me. I'm not going to turn trackside on for the first time in a decade to try and capture it, but if anyone has it and can send it to me or post it here, I'll follow it up. As CS suggests, if they are referring to net revenue, that's at least a billion $s of turnover going off shore on NZ racing isn't it that they are claiming?

You think their claims are meant to be not taken literally by the general public? They are a mile away from anything recently published by Treasury, the DIA or any peer reviewed publications. Maybe they have more recent authoratative data to support their claims but I think they are required to reference that.

Just wondering if it would meet the standards? PRINCIPLE 2: TRUTHFUL PRESENTATION Gambling advertisements must be truthful, balanced and not misleading. Rule 2 (a) Truthful Presentation Guidelines Gambling advertisements must not mislead or be likely to mislead, deceive or confuse consumers, abuse their trust or exploit their lack of knowledge. This includes by implication, inaccuracy, ambiguity, exaggeration, unrealistic claim, omission, false representation or otherwise. Obvious hyperbole identifiable as such is not considered to be misleading. Gambling advertisements must not: Make claims about the chance of winning unless they are factual and able to be proven. Exaggerate the chance of winning or the size of the prize. Falsely state or imply that a gambler’s skill can influence the outcome of the gambling activity unless skill can affect the outcome. Gambling advertisements must: Include the terms and conditions or a reference to where the terms and conditions are readily available. Terms and conditions must be easily understood and must not contradict the advertisement content. Clearly display in the advertisement information about where the gambling can be accessed (e.g. in the case of online gambling a URL address for a website) if it would otherwise be misleading to not display such information.

Doe anyone have the ad or the supporting data? Otherwise, I will request it from the Advertising Standards Authority. I find it unbelievable.

Did you mean dead wood JB?

I'd love to see the business plan for that. Just don't see how it could be financially viable without continuing substantial subsidies. I wouldn't be buying shares in the venture. On the other hand, I agree it is a great place to go racing and was just lamenting waking on New Years day without being there and facing the prospect of 2 consecutive stellar days of quality racing. Introduced a few newbies to the game on those days over the years.

Trainer J Burrows (MAIDINTHEMIST) – Issued with a warning for presenting MAIDINTHEMIST without the notified tongue tie.