Brodie

Jason, na I wouldnt have the patience and discipline that training harness requires! I do have total respect for what trainers do and for the financial returns! it is disappointing what is going to happen!

Lol, how did they go? Bet they were nil on the horses and were allowed to feed as much as they wanted into the dogs with same race multi this, same race multi that ? What did they start with and finish with? If any single person wagered the way these OTG blokes do, theY would be betting irresponsibly and were compulsive gambler’s! And yet certain punters they make it hard and are treated poorly whereas the OTG are given major preferential treatment!

Jason, dont agree that harness racing is an awful industry? Yes it has certainly fallen from grace compared to the hay days when courses were full and it was semi affordable for many! There certainly has been some shocking business decisions made over the past decade or so and I believe that HRNZ stopped promoting the harness racing industry. Things are competitive in everything nowadays but personally believe that things are going to become very dire for harness racing industry 2 years or so due to very poor financial handling of things. The frustrating thing is that those making the decisions at the moment are not looking at the overall picture of what they are doing to the harness racing future. They have lost the plot and when things are shown up for what they actually are there will be heads to roll!

Why stop at the handicapping department? Unfortunately when the industry needs people with a background with business success, we sadly haven’t got it! I believe that what should’ve been an opportunity to keep the harness industry going has been badly managed! the reality is that those that still think that Entain is the White Knight for racing in NZ are going to be sadly disappointed, but then again the opportunity for anyone to dispute this are most welcome to respond here?

Needs to go back to number if wins current system just not fair when 15 win horses race maiden winners

Chucking money into something that is going to lose money to my mind , is not a winner! Cambridge chucked money into the slot race when they can not afford it, in fact they are broke and no way on earth will they trade out of it! Gamma, you need to realise that the only reason harness is functioning at the moment is due to the money that Entain has Chucked in and it isnt going to continue indefinitely. Totally agree harness racing is very poorly promoted in NZ, HRNZ would rather boost the stakes now and have nothing to show at the end of the 5 years? it is very puzzling how someone who is not on the HRNZ payroll is the biggest promoter of harness racing in NZ?.?? They just do not get it but then again while they are getting big salaries then what is the problem?

We get very little media from out of HRNZ apart from every now and then we get the CEO interviewed and telling us how positive things are! Within 2 years there is going to be a lot of media reports but for the wrong reasons! If we are wrong then why is the CEO not coming out and denying that things are dire?

Cambridge could chuck in a couple of hundred thousand dollars to increase the stake and entice more in?

Its all good then Gamma lol If you think HRNZ are doing an amazing job, would hate to see a bad job! Anyway, I hope you are correct and they are doing an amazing job! The thing is one of us is going to be right and I definitely hope it is you Gamma! Reality is that it wont be unless Boots and Seymour are prepared to throw in a lazy $100m each and every year going forward! I challenge someone to speak up in affirmative of how HRNZ is currently managing the finances, and why they believe it is possible to maintain the current stake money in 2 years time and grow the business!

Gamma, firstly Entain is no White Knight for racing in NZ! Quite the opposite in fact! They are in it solely to reap 50% of-the profits from the NZ TAB for 25 years, nothing at sll to do with assisting harness racing!! A big mistake was made by the TAB and McAnulty you will get to see! What we dont support is the mismanagement of the finances of harness racing, it is a shocking indictment on HRNZ that they are putting the harness industry into jeopardy! You can go on about the current racing as being great and stakes are good but only due to Entains cash splash which is going go finish and then big time problems bigger than currently! Finally, can you suggest to Boots and Seymour to contribute say $100million each year to harness NZ to keep the stakes where they currently are? Auckland and Csmbridge are in deep shite and thats with the Entain $ imagine what will happen in 2 years? HRNZ are treating the public with contempt

Reality is that HRNZ is not in any financial position to be bailing anyone out from what I have heard? Reserves they had have been spent and they are surviving off the Entain cash splash? If Brodie is wrong on this, I challenge anyone to come on BOAY and deny this! HRNZ really do need to come out and state what the plan is for harness racing now and in the future!

Gamma, ask Andrew Neal what he thinks of David Branch blowing hundreds of thousands on “The Race” and putting the Cambridge harness racing in jeopardy? Going to be very interesting to see if HRNZ gets the approval to buy the land off Cambridge, they probably will though! The thing is it will only be putting a bandage over a festering wound unfortunately! It is good to have positivity Gamma about the future of harness racing in NZ, however the realism of the plight that the North Island is in, will play out in the future unfortunately.

Gamma, Cambridge Club is broke as! Garrick Knight wrote an article on Cambridge and effectively they are totally in the shite if HRNZ doesnt but land from it! They have a loan to HRNZ fir a million that they can not repay as they havent got the money as the cupboard is bare as they are losing money! They owe 500k in tax that they can not pay. Andrew Neal took over from David Branch who majorly stuffed up when he came back from Queensland sats things are dire, just as we knew! The club put mega dollars into the Stupid Slot Races which was always unnecessary and without s bailout from HRNZ they will not be able to continue to race! Auckland is just a cot case and they will eventually fold as they have not got the ability to trade out! You are saying HRNZ are doing a great job, they actually are totally out of their depth unfortunately and need to go under control of people with business acumen. It is a very sad state of affairs in the North island and sugar soaping the predicament thst it is in, just will not cut the mustard! There is no one in NZ stupid enough to contribute mega millions to salvage racing once Entain stops contributing, unless Kevin Seymour or Boots are keen??

Couldn’t really comment lol No guarantees with anything

Spatchcock, less by the day! No I dont have earn a living from harness racing! I do have major concerns for those that do though!