Brodie

The TAB and Entain are the ones that are feeding the money to HRNZ to pay for the stakes. HRNZ will be distributing the funding into the stakes for the races that they are programming . No offence intended, but personally believe that think they are Santa Claus at the moment but Santa is going to run out of toys to give away in 2 years time! Unless someone knows more than what they are showing, the industry is going to be in strife.

You would think that they would be using the money a helluva lot more wisely than they actually are? Reality is that they will have no problem moving many of them on when the time is up, they have a history of it. If they were indeed wanting to improve turnover, they are going about it a very very odd way!

The truth of the matter is that Entain do not really care about racing in NZ despite what some may think! They are a Sports and gaming company, not racing! Spend the 900m on stakes in NZ we do not care, we only want the Sports and online casino for 20 years. HRNZ and other racing sold out to the wrong crowd. Where are the spokes people for Entain coming out and denying that what Brodie and others know is not correct? They will not because we are on the money.

Gamma, the only reason the stakes are what they are currently is due to the Cash splash fro Entain. This is a serious mismanagement of funds from HRNZ as it is falsifying things for another 2 years or so and then we will see just how badly managed this $900m has been! Seriously you can not run any business the way they are operating currently, we will find out this majorly! Who would be wanting to breed and race horses in 2 years time, certainly no one with any financial sense, and wont be enticing enough for any new participants! Just have to shake our heads and not hold our breath!

Heaps more Chief! Answered for Westview lol

It is very surprising how so few actually comment about the situation that harness racing is going to find itself in, when the great cash splash 5 years is up? HRNZ has come into all this extra funding coming from the promised funds from Entain for 5 years! They are like a kid who gets this unexpected money and they go hell for leather to spend it all, on anything whether it is for stuff they need or not! No offence intended, however personally believe they are not acting financially fiscally with the cash from Entain. Unfortunately it will hit Harness racing with a big thump when it stops snd the stakes are dramatically reduced! does anyone actually believe that the stakes at the current levels will remain or increase in the years ahead?

Does anyone know for certain where the fixed odds are being set from? Is it NZ or is it the Ozzies setting them? Nowornever is correct they are far more conservative on more horses early on than they used to, The thing is that a lot of it just not add up at all? They show several horses moving in on the fixed win dramatically a d then You go on and check the $ tracker and there is buggerall number of bets or money on that horse! So they are not exactly telling us the truth there! The TAB website for the horses comments is just an absolute waste of time as they have no idea and continually post rubbish! does anyone actually think the TAB are currently in particularly good hands going forward???

Interesting! Note that it states that Entain operates as a Sports and Gaming company! Not sure if it has any interest in horse racing investments around the world but it certainly does not appear to have any expertise with racing? This shouldve been taken into account when McAnulty the NZ Tab signed it away to Entain. Short term gain but not for the future of racing in NZ! Thing is the money being given to stakes currently is just a band aid and this money is being badly spent unfortunately.

Reality is that Entain are currently just playing out the remaining 2 years or so and then they will chop the funding for racing, unless someone from the TAB comes out and advises us otherwise? They are not these White Knights that the harness media splurged upon us, quite the opposite! Yes good funding for stakes, but that will end and then what? At the end of the day if you want to keep punting then that is our choice obviously, but they are effectively falsifying the turnover with the bonus bets and these so called bonus surges! What a load of rubbish, if you can afford to have these horses at these surged odds then just open them at that!!!! These bets that they try and sell us as “very special” are laughable arent they???? MAXIMUM BET $20!!!! TAB are victimising and treating punters differently, therefore they need to be reminded of their ethically wrong business actions!

Would be a place to get rid of unwanted horses but they probably wouldnt achieve great prices. I say bring back Claiming Races or have hirses racing in races where horses csn be claimed !

So they need to let all the punters on for significant amounts so they can cover your wins! They are just riding out the 5 year guarantee and then all hell will break loose! will need a new hobby.

that is what they want, the small investing punters that bet on every race. Thing is they are not attracting enough new ones, snd should be encouraging their existing lyal customer base, rather than trying to lose them! Reality is that it is a flawed business plan, but then again they do not care, while they are on the pay roll.

They should treat all punters equally just like you are meant to in all parts of life. Not all punters are allowed to bet Top 4!

Still Top 3 fixed when only 5 or more, so odds are good!

Most of the bets they showed as big bets on Friday night were very poor bets! If this is what the ones allowed more on than others bet on, then the TAB is going to do very well! This is why I say the NZ TAB does not not treat punters ethically equally and is what is going to be their downfall. They should be all treated equally as they are supposed to be s gambling agency, but they are not prepared to take the GAMBLE!!!!