Brodie

Was anyone here, down at Ashburton? The crowd appeared very small despite what Brittany stated on Trackside, with the camera focussed on 5 people 😂 Have been told that the crowd numbers were dismal, but then again were we expecting different?

Definitely a programming blunder without doubt, but they have made much bigger ones! When Entain was brought in by the TAB, signed off by McAnulty and Dean Shannon and Brad Steele brought in, many had a lot of optimism! How wrong it has been proven, and things are not looking at all good, unless someone can come on and tell us that things are going good??????

Potentially they could be, as a cheaper bred horse could be trained by an owner/ trainer or someone who trains more on a part time basis. I appreciate that it is very expensive to have harness horses trained, but I have serious misgivings that the HRNZ idea to pay out $60k stake money for 12 races today was a good idea! The amount paid out for the revenue from wagering just does not make sense with the way things are financially. The tote pools were absolutely pathetic, not sure about fixed turnover but I would imagine the Bookies wouldnt have done that well with many hotties mostly winning? They wouldve had just as many horses racing if the stakes were $25k or less and the $60k was just plain dumb! Good that some studs have dropped their stallions down to $5k and slightly cheaper to breed but then we all know that the service fee is probably the cheap part in getting a race horse to the races! Personally believe that if an owner goes to a $5k stallion so it can race in a few years in todays races, then they are not overly intelligent! No way on earth these races are going to be in existence with a $60k stake when they are old enough to race! The industry just can not afford it and it is only the Entain cash splash that enabled it today! Just telling it the way it is, unless Brad Steele can come out and state that Brodie is not on the money?

Why have all the races been given “Listed” status??? Seems crazy when they are restricted to horses whose dads stood st $5k or under? Maidens and horses outclassed racing in listed races? Owners will make the most of the $60k stake this year as who can see it being held again next year?

You would have to think they are penalty free! No one is bothering to bet into the tote on any of the races, and its no wonder! most will be wagering on the fixed odds on the hotties if you can be bothered!

Her U.D.R. Is .2343 so that would not make her the worst driver in NZ? Personally think she is pretty good, however I dont back her as I dont wager on Auckland harness and havent for a long time! Forbury, why do you rate her so lowly ? I thought Sharee T was your worst? Lol

The big worry that people with any level of business sense can see the writing on the wall and yet the ones on the salaries just dont seem to be able to? There are 34 races over Invercargill, Auckland and Ashburton and the stakes paid out is $1.62 million average of approx. $47,000 per race! How on earth does this make any sense when there is only a few thousand in the tote pools? They are going to be getting a hiding financially, but why worry everything is positive according to The CEO of HRNZ?

BOAY is the Premier site, and it is not boring! We talk about issues that affect racing whether it is good or not so good! The other site has posters that tend to just want to get on with other trying to get self affirmation. Not overly stimulatory but then again a lot of people like that by the look of it?

Fat fingers, $150m per year

It is absolutely mind boggling at the moment with the stake money being offered when we know that they are losing money with the amount of wagering occurring. Invercargill has a minimum if 20k and other races are significantly more! Auckland tonight are racing for 50k minimum, Ashburton Sunday $60k minimum! Highly doubt any of these meetings actually cover stake money let alone the other costs of running the meetings! Entain is not currently tracing well at all and yet have to continue to chuck in a cool $250m to racing. Seriously this can not end well with this totally inflated stakes!! Still havent seen a single poster stating that they have confidence in the decision making of HRNZ!

Just Terrible races to bet into, maidens racing race winners?? Short distance racing in NZ Just not attractive to anyone that takes wagering seriously. Too many shorties and not worth the effort surely?

To be fair the intelligent posters are on BOAY! Reality is that the ones that genuinely care about harness racing are mostly on BOAY, and tell it the way it actually is! Some of us were banned from the other site due to telling the truth about things without the rah rah bs!

you sere lucky you got an email from them lol They are pretty gutless are the Bookies but it is to the detriment of racing.

Never had a rebate as it is only on tote betting if I understand correctly. I would prefer that as the TAB has a monopoly on gambling on racing that they actually take the wagering that punters want. They put up the odds and yet are not prepared to allow some punters to bet reasonable amounts. Not sure how much the Entain owned Ozzie Bookies restrict punters to over there, but are the Ozzie’s restricted as much as we are here in NZ?

I believe they open too many too short and that does not encourage wagering! Then when you want to wager, they dont let you on for much and then slash the odds too much to encourage others! They talk about wanting to increase turnover, but they dont!!!