Brodie

that is hard to understand? Palmy need Michael House taking horses up there or they will not be holding meetings!

There is no transparency whatsoever and very little out of HRNZ. They concentrate on yield when it needs to-be turnover. A lower yield on a bigger turnover is a far better option! You restrict turnover and it has bad side effects.

Not sure how many punters are restricted by the TAB in NZ? However they would be far better off allowing the punters on for reasonable amounts than turning away business and therefore restricting the turnover! How do they know that the restricted punters currently are not going to be losing punters in the future? At least let everyone on to be able to win a reasonable amount in this day and age as a few hundred dollars is pathetic, when OTG are allowed to win tens of thousands!

Think of how much extra turnover they would have if they let the punters on?

Personally dont think that whingeing is when someone is prepared to stand up to what they know is morally and ethically wrong! Anyone that has any sense of fairness can see that Brodie is right in his thinking snd if it affected them, then they would hold the same opinion. People need to express their opinions and whether they are right or wrong they need to be heard. The thing is we never hear from the TAB as to why they think they should be allowed to treat punters in NZ differently! What other businesses do we know of that are allowed to treat their customers unfairly and get away with it?

The sole reason that I continue to go on about restrictions etc. is the total victimisation of some punters and the favouritism towards others! The TAB advertises that punters should bet responsibly! Now do they actually mean this or is it just to try and show that they do care? Has anyone heard of the TAB restricting or stopping losing punters from wagering??? Personally I never have, but what the TAB actually does do is restrict punters that do bet responsibly and are winning punters!! So we can see the Hypocrisy in a big way coming from them! They have been giving the Out The Gate extra bonus cash, bonus bets and increased fixed odds since it started whereas some punters continue to be restricted to buggerall! Winning punters are restricted as soon as they start winning consistently and yet OTG have been winning recently and yet they get rewarded with “Free money”! While the TAB continues to operate morally and ethically wrongly, surely it is anyones right to point this out? The answer is to treat all punters fairly and then there will be no issues. If they havent got the fortitude to take the punters on when they put up fixed odds then say so and put restrictions on every punter in NZ. Why dont they come out and advertise the fact that they only want to take wagering from punters that are going to lose? Brodie just telling it the way most people would think is fair and reasonable.

Thank you Spatchcock. Appreciate that. Tis my right to point out the error of their ways! Treat all punters equally and I will not need to point it out. When some punters are restricted to pathetically low amounts and the TAB employees are treated with total favouritism and are allowed to wager and win unlimited amounts, it needs to be discussed. Why is it right to be treating punters differently? Spatchcock do you really believe that they are operating ethically, and would other businesses get away with it?

Wonder if I walked into the TAB and asked them for some BONUS CASH, BONUUS BETS AND BOOSTED ODDS, would they say Yes??? They really should , as this is what “ Out THE GATE” gets from Betcha! Thats right, keep forgetting, they are treated differently to other punters! Just an absolute joke the way they are running this OTG!!!

Michael House’s wife I believe is a Vet? Still maintain it was a big form reversal from what it had shoen in 42 previous start's snd the Bookies agreed! Grass tracks wouldve helped and going to be interesting go see if it can win again?

Brent Weaver has been around for decades, Gamma. Used to live up in Marlborough and campaigned horses in Wellington and Palmerston North, and is a driver as well. Has had some pretty reasonable horses and not an inexperienced trainer. Someone knew the horse was improved due to the shortening but on previous form you just couldnt have it, although grass tracks are a leveller!

Gamma, The Mandalorian has over 40 starts for Weaver and in almost every one was not competitive enough to place. One start for Michael House and the money comes on and it wins. You say it didnt improve much, so you are saying the others in the race that would always best it home, had a bad day at the office? Think it is not worth asking the question by the Stipes, if they are always going to accept the answer as being change of training routine! Not saying anything untoward here, just saying that what was Brent Weaver doing to have this horse going so nil for so long??!

The question needs to be asked about the improvement of The Mandalorian! The money came for The Mandalorian first up for Michael House yesterday at Oamaru. The Mandalorian had 42 starts for Brent Weaver and to be fair was a very poor performing horse and showed very little ability, hardly worth having in work! The Stipes asked the question yesterday wishy washy and accepted that it was due to a change of training routine, that enabled this poor performer to winning first up in short time from a previous trainer. Yes we know a change if trainer can improve a horse, but why not kindly explain to the betting public what this so called change of training routine is? Just a cop out answer that needs a proper answer! Either Michael House is an absolute genius or Brent Weaver is a hopeless trainer!! The betting public need to be better informed of how a horse goes from useless to a winner in short time, as we have a Racing Integrity Unit don’t we?

Yep, when you have been around as long as we have, 6 months means a lot! This year has just disappeared so quickly and so the 2.5 years is going to come around very quickly. Chief, have you got the confidence in the current CEO and others making decisions that they have enough business acumen??

Chief, it is 2 and a 1/2 years to go, and the usage of the Entain money has been decidedly very poor. The ones making the decisions will not be around when the day of reckoning comes. Anyway nothing we can do apart from pointing out the error of their ways!!

Chief it isnt three years to go, it is 2 and a 1/2. Not sure how the thoroughbreds are going with the extra money from Entain, but it would be odds on that Harness stakes are going to be crucified in the next year or so! Unfortunately you can not powder coat what is going on at the moment.