Brodie

Lol hardly be wanting to email them for obvious reasons. You are correct the TAB doesnt let many punters win very much! They think that $1k is a big bet??? TAB with its monopoly should be letting the punters on to win reasonable amounts, without the total control that exert, as it is hindering the industry big time.

Personally do not believe that HRNZ are keeping the public informed enough wuth their decision making. So many decisions made that is not in the best interests of harness racing future!

It appeared that several of the drivers thought the race was going to be called off by their actions! Personally think it should have been but then I am not a stipe. Think Becker may have stood on the loose reins down the back straight.

Shab, they want punters to increase the TAB turnover so that they have employment! So you know the answer Shab? The thing is that BOAY is a forum that is to discuss harness topics and maybe someone from HRNZ could actually advise all of us at the same time? So Shab, what do you think the reason is for them to give these fixed odds and then taketh away? Shab, are you happy with the amount of information that comes out of HRNZ?

Galah, no we have no personal grudge against any of the HRNZ employees! Just so frustrating that they seem hell bent on ensuring that harness racing is going to be in such a dire financial situation in 2 years time! It just not seem possible that they just want to splash money into stakes that has not been earned or they can afford to waste! Some owners must think xmas has come when these big stake money races have only a few starters in it! Reality is I believe that HRNZ are not administering the cash from Entain very professionally whatsoever and the harness industry is going to one hell of a shock when the money dries up! Everyone that I know can see it and it is very surprising and disappointing that the ones running the show are acting so shockingly? Then again everyone knows my point of view as I have constantly maintained and yet no one making these decisions and Entain are prepared to refute what I am saying! More than happy for anyone to come on and say Brodie is wrong but I highly doubt anyone could?

Havent seen them for awhile now? Certainly havent been up anytime I have looked over the past week or two! The disappointing thing is that no one from HRNZ is willing to participate on BOAY the Premier Racing Site in NZ ! How hard is it for someone from HRNZ to actually advise us why this is happening now?

Does anyone know why the fixed odds on HRNZ website have disappeared?? Having them there was one of the better things that HRNZ had done in recent times and they have now got rid of them????? Does it make any sense? NO it does not, unless someone can kindly explain why they have taken them down???

The TAB got bailed out by the government after the Covid BS and now Entain with the $900m and it will nit be happening again! The fact that they have not invested the money wisely is very disappointing and going to be a kick in the guts for harness racing in my humble opinion.

Gamma, personally not terrified at all that Entain are going to stop the cash splash, as it doesnt affect me! However it is going to have dire consequences for those involved in the harness industry. The reality is that HRNZ are responsible for what happens with the future of harness racing in NZ and the result is on their shoulders! If they are happy with the way things are trekking then that is great, just would not be holding my breath!

Gamma, to be fair I do not believe that there would be too many harness enthusiasts that would be happy with the decisions that have been made by the four parties you mentioned? Brodie is just pointing out fact, that you could not defend! ATC, absolute incompetency Entain, self interest only and will pull the plug in 2 years, racing profit not what they require and poor decisions being made. HRNZ, no comment needed North Island harness - cot case! Gamma, all very sad but just the reality, snd things need to change for the sake of the long term racing. Hopefully I am totally wrong but I havent spoken to a single person who thinks things are going in the right direction.

Lol, i have never mentioned that the champions of North Island racing should piss off! Of course they should get accolades for what they have done for harness racing in the last 40 years or so! Its not Hrnz’s fault that the ATC has stuffed the racing in Auckland who was trying to make millions for racing up North! Problem is that they made decisions that have now ensured that it is not financially viable to continue to race in Auckland unless there is a massive bail out, and not sure whether that is ever possible? HRNZ certainly have no ability to be able to bsil them out as their finances are going to be in dire straights in 2 years time! Would be great for someone from HRNZ, probably the CEO to actually come on BOAY and advise us what is going on with racing in the North island? The thing is they wont because they havent got an answer and yet they continue to make decisions that anyone with business acumen would not be making! To be running races at Invercargill today for $40k and having 6 horses and being a group 3 is just hard to justify? Once again Gamma, never put down the champions of harness in either the North and South, just pointing out that what is happening can not continue.

Probably be larger as they wont be walking the dogs?

Can not be correct Galah? Brad Steele says everything is positive, he said so when Greg O’Connor interviewed him a few months back? I know in a couple of years there are going to be a lot of harness participants sho are going go be very irate at how HRNZ have handled the money from Entain!. Probably wont worry them cos they will be gone.

Fair enough Gamma. Lets have 8 or 9 horses races on every programme so that owners have more chance of getting some stake money! What I would be betting on is that harness racing in NZ will be gone in 10 years if not sooner through lack of participants, lack of punting and lack of horses! It is going to be bad enough in 2 years when the stakes are going to be slashed and there will be owners and breeders running fir the hills.

Gamma, not used to gallopers finishing down the track at all, as I do not invest on them! Too hard to follow form, so I dont touch them! You mention when they had 11 or 12 horses over the mile at Albion park, if you were out the back you had no chance! Rest my case, mile racing is not what harness should be running over! Horrible boring racing on all tracks in NZ.